Evaṁ me sutaṁ—
evaṁ me sutaṁ → evammesutaṁ (bjt) | evaṁ me → evamme (th) | evaṁ → evam (pts)So I have heard. ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā kosalesu cārikaṁ caramāno mahatā bhikkhusaṅghena saddhiṁ pañcamattehi bhikkhusatehi yena manasākaṭaṁ nāma kosalānaṁ brāhmaṇagāmo tadavasari.
manasākaṭaṁ nāma → manasākatannāma (sya-all) | cārikaṁ caramāno → cārikañcaramāno (th) | bhikkhusaṅghena → bhikkhusaṁghena (ms2005) | bhikkhusaṅghena → bhikkhu-saṁghena (pts) | pañcamattehi bhikkhusatehi → pañca-mattehi bhikkhu-satehi (pts) | brāhmaṇagāmo tadavasari → brāhmaṇa-gāmo tad avasari (pts)At one time the Buddha was wandering in the land of the Kosalans together with a large Saṅgha of five hundred mendicants when he arrived at a village of the Kosalan brahmins named Manasākaṭa. Tatra sudaṁ bhagavā manasākaṭe viharati uttarena manasākaṭassa aciravatiyā nadiyā tīre ambavane.
manasākaṭe → manasākate (sya-all) | manasākaṭassa → manasākatassa (sya-all) | nadiyā → SS nadī here, but Scmt nadiyā in 7. (pts note) | ambavane → amba-vane (pts)He stayed in a mango grove on a bank of the Aciravatī River to the north of Manasākaṭa.

Tena kho pana samayena sambahulā abhiññātā abhiññātā brāhmaṇamahāsālā manasākaṭe paṭivasanti, seyyathidaṁ—
manasākaṭe → manasākate (sya-all); manasākāṭe (pts) | seyyathidaṁ caṅkī → seyyathīdaṁ vaṅkī (sya-all) | brāhmaṇamahāsālā manasākaṭe → brāhmaṇa-mahāsālā manasākāṭe (pts)Now at that time several very well-known well-to-do brahmins were residing in Manasākaṭa. They included caṅkī brāhmaṇo tārukkho brāhmaṇo pokkharasāti brāhmaṇo jāṇusoṇi brāhmaṇo todeyyo brāhmaṇo aññe ca abhiññātā abhiññātā brāhmaṇamahāsālā.
pokkharasāti → pokkharasātī (bj) | jāṇusoṇi → jāṇussoṇī (bj); jāṇusoni (sya-all) | todeyyo brāhmaṇo → todeyyabrāhmaṇo (sya-all, pts) | Caṅkī → Sd Caṅki. (pts note) | Jāṇussoṇi → Scd Jānussoni; Sm Jānussoṇi; Bm Jāṇusoni; Bp Jaṇuyoni (but Bk Jānusoṇi at A. iv. 184). (pts note) | caṅkī → vaṅkī (th)the brahmins Caṅkī, Tārukkha, Pokkharasāti, Jānussoṇi, Todeyya, and others.

Atha kho vāseṭṭhabhāradvājānaṁ māṇavānaṁ jaṅghavihāraṁ anucaṅkamantānaṁ anuvicarantānaṁ maggāmagge kathā udapādi.
māṇavānaṁ jaṅghavihāraṁ → jaṅghāvihāraṁ (bj, pts) | Vāseṭṭha-Bhāradvājānaṁ → Bm adds māṇavānaṁ| (as in SṆ. p. 112); Bp -dvajānaṁ jaṅgha-. (pts note) | vāseṭṭhabhāradvājānaṁ māṇavānaṁ jaṅghavihāraṁ → vāseṭṭha-bhāradvājānaṁ jaṅghāvihāraṁ (bjt) | atha kho → athakho (th) | vāseṭṭhabhāradvājānaṁ māṇavānaṁ jaṅghavihāraṁ → vāseṭṭha-bhāradvājānaṁ jaṅghā-vihāraṁ (pts)Then as the students Vāseṭṭha and Bhāradvāja were going for a walk they began a discussion regarding what is the path and what is not the path.

Atha kho vāseṭṭho māṇavo evamāha:
atha kho → (sya-all, pts) | evamāha → evam āha (pts)Vāseṭṭha said this: “ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāya, yvāyaṁ akkhāto brāhmaṇena pokkharasātinā”ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahmasahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | pokkharasātināti bhāradvājopi → pokkharasātinā ti bhāradvājo (pts) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayaṁ añjasāyano (pts)“This is the only straight path, the direct route that delivers one who applies it to the company of Divinity; namely, that explained by the brahmin Pokkharasāti.”

Bhāradvājopi māṇavo evamāha:
bhāradvājopi → bhāradvājo (bjt, pts) | evamāha → evam āha (pts)Bhāradvāja said this: “ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko, niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāya, yvāyaṁ akkhāto brāhmaṇena tārukkhenā”ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahmasahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayaṁ añjasāyano (pts)“This is the only straight path, the direct route that delivers one who applies it to the company of Divinity; namely, that explained by the brahmin Tārukkha.”

Neva kho asakkhi vāseṭṭho māṇavo bhāradvājaṁ māṇavaṁ saññāpetuṁ, na pana asakkhi bhāradvājo māṇavo vāseṭṭhaṁ māṇavaṁ saññāpetuṁ.
kho asakkhi → khvāsakkhi (bj) | pana asakkhi → panāsakkhi (bj) | māṇavo → māṇavopi (cck) | khvāsakkhi → neva kho asakkhi (bj: kesuci potthakesu, sīhalakkharamudditaṭṭhakathāya ca)But neither was able to persuade the other. Atha kho vāseṭṭho māṇavo bhāradvājaṁ māṇavaṁ āmantesi:
atha kho → athakho (th)So Vāseṭṭha said to Bhāradvāja, “ayaṁ kho, bhāradvāja, samaṇo gotamo sakyaputto sakyakulā pabbajito manasākaṭe viharati uttarena manasākaṭassa aciravatiyā nadiyā tīre ambavane.
kho → kho pana (sya-all) | manasākaṭe → manasākate (sya-all) | manasākaṭassa → manasākatassa (sya-all) | sakyaputto sakyakulā → sakya-putto sakya-kulā (pts) | ambavane → amba-vane (pts)“Bhāradvāja, the ascetic Gotama—a Sakyan, gone forth from a Sakyan family—is staying in a mango grove on a bank of the Aciravatī River to the north of Manasākaṭa. Taṁ kho pana bhavantaṁ gotamaṁ evaṁ kalyāṇo kittisaddo abbhuggato:
evaṁ kalyāṇo → evaṁkalyāṇo (th) | kittisaddo → kitti-saddo (pts)He has this good reputation: ‘itipi so bhagavā arahaṁ sammāsambuddho vijjācaraṇasampanno sugato lokavidū anuttaro purisadammasārathi satthā devamanussānaṁ buddho bhagavā’ti.
itipi → iti pi (pts) | sammāsambuddho vijjācaraṇasampanno → sammā-sambuddho vijjā-caraṇa-sampanno (pts) | lokavidū → loka-vidū (pts) | purisadammasārathi → purisadamma-sārathi (pts) | devamanussānaṁ → deva-manussānaṁ (pts) | bhagavāti → bhagavā ti (pts)‘That Blessed One is perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed.’ Āyāma, bho bhāradvāja, yena samaṇo gotamo tenupasaṅkamissāma; upasaṅkamitvā etamatthaṁ samaṇaṁ gotamaṁ pucchissāma.
bho → (sya-all) | tenupasaṅkamissāma → ten upasaṁkāmissāma (pts) | tenupasaṅkamissāma upasaṅkamitvā etamatthaṁ → ten upasaṁkāmissāma upasaṁkamitvā etam atthaṁ (pts)Come, let’s go to see him and ask him about this matter. Yathā no samaṇo gotamo byākarissati, tathā naṁ dhāressāmā”ti.
byākarissati → vyākarissati (pts)As he answers, so we’ll remember it.”

“Evaṁ, bho”ti kho bhāradvājo māṇavo vāseṭṭhassa māṇavassa paccassosi.
evaṁ bhoti → evambhoti (bjt) | bhoti → bho ti (pts)“Yes, worthy sir,” replied Bhāradvāja.

1. Maggāmaggakathā1. What is the Path and What is Not the Path

Atha kho vāseṭṭhabhāradvājā māṇavā yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkamiṁsu; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavatā saddhiṁ sammodiṁsu.
Vāseṭṭha-Bhāradvājā → Bm Bhāradvāja- (as BB in SṆ.). (pts note) | atha kho → athakho (th) | tenupasaṅkamiṁsu upasaṅkamitvā → ten upasaṁkamiṁsu upasaṁkamitvā (pts)So they went to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him. Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdiṁsu. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho vāseṭṭho māṇavo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:
sāraṇīyaṁ → sārāṇīyaṁ (bj, pts) | nisīdiṁsu → nisidiṁsu (pts) | sārāṇīyaṁ → Bm sāraṇiyaṁ. (pts note) | etadavoca → etad avoca (pts)When the greetings and polite conversation were over, they sat down to one side and Vāseṭṭha told him of their conversation, adding: “idha, bho gotama, amhākaṁ jaṅghavihāraṁ anucaṅkamantānaṁ anuvicarantānaṁ maggāmagge kathā udapādi.
jaṅghavihāraṁ → jaṅghāvihāraṁ (bj, pts) | jaṅghavihāraṁ → jaṅghā-vihāraṁ (pts) Ahaṁ evaṁ vadāmi: ‘ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāya, yvāyaṁ akkhāto brāhmaṇena pokkharasātinā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahmasahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | pokkharasātināti → pokkharasātinā ti (pts) Bhāradvājo māṇavo evamāha:
evamāha → evam āha (pts) ‘ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāya, yvāyaṁ akkhāto brāhmaṇena tārukkhenā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahmasahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) Ettha, bho gotama, attheva viggaho, atthi vivādo, atthi nānāvādo”ti.
attheva → atth eva (pts) | nānāvādoti → nānāvādo ti (pts)“In this matter we have a dispute, a disagreement, a difference of opinion.”

“Iti kira, vāseṭṭha, tvaṁ evaṁ vadesi:“So, Vāseṭṭha, it seems that you say that ‘ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāya, yvāyaṁ akkhāto brāhmaṇena pokkharasātinā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahmasahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | pokkharasātināti → pokkharasātinā ti (pts)the straight path is that explained by Pokkharasāti, Bhāradvājo māṇavo evamāha:
evamāha → evam āha (pts)while Bhāradvāja says that ‘ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāya, yvāyaṁ akkhāto brāhmaṇena tārukkhenā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahmasahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāya yvāyaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāya svāyaṁ (pts)the straight path is that explained by Tārukkha. Atha kismiṁ pana vo, vāseṭṭha, viggaho, kismiṁ vivādo, kismiṁ nānāvādo”ti?
vāseṭṭha → vāseṭṭhā (bj) | nānāvādoti → nānāvādo ti (bjt) | nānāvādoti → nānā-vādo ti (pts)But what exactly is your disagreement about?”

“Maggāmagge, bho gotama.“About what is the path and what is not the path, worthy Gotama. Kiñcāpi, bho gotama, brāhmaṇā nānāmagge paññāpenti, addhariyā brāhmaṇā tittiriyā brāhmaṇā chandokā brāhmaṇā bavhārijjhā brāhmaṇā, atha kho sabbāni tāni niyyānikā niyyanti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāya.
bavhārijjhā → bavhiricā (bj); bavharidhā (sya-all); chandāvā brāhmaṇā brāhmacariyā (pts) | niyyānikā → niyyāṇikāni (bj); niyyānikāni (sya-all, pts) | paññāpenti → paññapenti (cck) | bavhiricā → bavharijā, bavharijjha, bhavyārijjhā, bavhariyā (bj: kesuci); brahmacariyā (bj: PTS) | Chandāvā → St Bm omit Chandāvā Brāhmaṇā; and so Bm below. (pts note) | Brāhmacariyā → Bm Bhavyārijjhā twice; Bp Bavhadija and Cavhadijā. (pts note) | brahmasahabyatāya → brahmasahavyatāya (bjt) | atha kho → athakho (th) | nānāmagge → nānā-magge (pts) | brahmasahabyatāya → brahma-sahavyatāya (pts)Even though brahmins describe different paths—the Adhvaryu brahmins, the Taittirīya brahmins, the Chāndogya brahmins, the Cāndrāyaṇa brahmins, and the Bahvṛca brahmins—all of them still lead someone who practices them to the company of Divinity.

Seyyathāpi, bho gotama, gāmassa vā nigamassa vā avidūre bahūni cepi nānāmaggāni bhavanti, atha kho sabbāni tāni gāmasamosaraṇāni bhavanti;
atha kho → athakho (th) | seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts) | cepi nānāmaggāni → ce pi nānā-maggāni (pts) | gāmasamosaraṇāni → gāma-samosaraṇāni (pts)It’s like a village or town that has many different roads nearby, yet all of them meet at that village. evameva kho, bho gotama, kiñcāpi brāhmaṇā nānāmagge paññāpenti, addhariyā brāhmaṇā tittiriyā brāhmaṇā chandokā brāhmaṇā bavhārijjhā brāhmaṇā, atha kho sabbāni tāni niyyānikā niyyanti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyā”ti.
bavhārijjhā → bavhiricā (bj); bavharidhā (sya-all); chandāvā brāhmaṇā brahmacariyā (pts) | niyyānikā → niyyāṇikāni (bj); niyyānikāni (sya-all, pts) | paññāpenti → paññapenti (cck, sya-all) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | atha kho → athakho (th) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | nānāmagge → nānā-magge (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahma-sahavyatāyāti (pts)In the same way, even though brahmins describe different paths—the Adhvaryu brahmins, the Taittirīya brahmins, the Chāndogya brahmins, the Cāndrāyaṇa brahmins, and the Bahvṛca brahmins—all of them still lead someone who practices them to the company of Divinity.”

2. Vāseṭṭhamāṇavānuyoga2. Questioning Vāseṭṭha

“Niyyantīti, vāseṭṭha vadesi”?
vadesi → For this section Bm has Niyyantīti Vāseṭṭha vadesi? Bho Gotama vadāmi niyyantīti. Vāseṭṭha vadesi niyyantīti? Bho Gotama vadāmi niyyantīti. Vāseṭṭha vadesi niyyantīti? Bho Gotama vadāmi niyyantīti. and SS only repeat twice (not thrice). (pts note)“Do you say, ‘they lead someone’, Vāseṭṭha?”

“Niyyantīti, bho gotama, vadāmi”.“I do, worthy Gotama.”

“Niyyantīti, vāseṭṭha, vadesi”?
vadesi → Sm vadāmi. (pts note)“Do you say, ‘they lead someone’, Vāseṭṭha?”

“Niyyantīti, bho gotama, vadāmi”.“I do, worthy Gotama.”

“Niyyantīti, vāseṭṭha, vadesi”?
vāseṭṭha → vaseṭṭha (pts)“Do you say, ‘they lead someone’, Vāseṭṭha?”

“Niyyantīti, bho gotama, vadāmi”.
vadāmi → vadāmīti (sya-all)“I do, worthy Gotama.”

“Kiṁ pana, vāseṭṭha, atthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ekabrāhmaṇopi, yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho”ti?
sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi diṭṭho ti (bjt) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi diṭṭhoti (th) | kiṁ → kim (pts) | ekabrāhmaṇopi → eka-brāhmaṇo pi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi-diṭṭho ti (pts)“Well, of the brahmins who are proficient in the three Vedas, Vāseṭṭha, is there even a single one who has seen the Divinity with their own eyes?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Kiṁ pana, vāseṭṭha, atthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ekācariyopi, yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho”ti?
ekācariyopi → ekācariyapācariyo pi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi diṭṭho ti (bjt) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi diṭṭhoti (th) | kiṁ → kim (pts) | ekācariyopi → ekācariyo pi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi-diṭṭho ti (pts)“Well, has even a single one of their tutors seen the Divinity with their own eyes?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Kiṁ pana, vāseṭṭha, atthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ekācariyapācariyopi, yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho”ti?
ekācariyapācariyopi → ācariyapācariyopi (sya-all) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhidiṭṭho ti (bjt) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi diṭṭhoti (th) | ekācariyapācariyopi → ekācariya-pācariyo pi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi-diṭṭho ti (pts)“Well, has even a single one of their tutors’ tutors seen the Divinity with their own eyes?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Kiṁ pana, vāseṭṭha, atthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ yāva sattamā ācariyāmahayugā yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho”ti?
ācariyāmahayugā → ācariyamahayugā (bj) | sattamā ācariyāmahayugā → sattamācariyamahayugā (sya-all) | ācariyāmahayugā → sattamācariyamahayugā (cck: syā.) | ācariya-mahāyugā → Bm ācariyā- (twice). (pts note) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi diṭṭho ti (bjt) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhi diṭṭhoti (th) | kiṁ → kim (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭhoti → sakkhidiṭṭho ti (pts)“Well, has anyone back to the seventh generation of tutors seen the Divinity with their own eyes?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Kiṁ pana, vāseṭṭha, yepi tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ pubbakā isayo mantānaṁ kattāro mantānaṁ pavattāro, yesamidaṁ etarahi tevijjā brāhmaṇā porāṇaṁ mantapadaṁ gītaṁ pavuttaṁ samihitaṁ, tadanugāyanti, tadanubhāsanti, bhāsitamanubhāsanti, vācitamanuvācenti, seyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako vāmako vāmadevo vessāmitto yamataggi aṅgīraso bhāradvājo vāseṭṭho kassapo bhagu.
samihitaṁ → samūhitaṁ (bj); samīhitaṁ (sya-all) | aṭṭhako → aṭṭako (bj) | yepi → atthi ye te (sya-all) | porāṇaṁ → purāṇaṁ (sya-all) | yamataggi aṅgīraso → yamataggī aṅgiraso (sya-all) | samihitaṁ → samīhitaṁ (cck: syā.) | samihitaṁ → Smt samīhitaṁ (twice here, and in 18, 20). (pts note) | Aṭṭhako → Bm Athako (and below). (pts note) | Yamataggi → In 18,20 Sm has -aggī and Aṅgīraso. (pts note) | Bhagu → See the note to ‘Vinaya Texts,'; ii. 130 for all these names. (pts note) | seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th) | kiṁ → kim (pts) | yepi → ye pi (pts) | yesamidaṁ → yesam idaṁ (pts) | tadanugāyanti tadanubhāsanti bhāsitamanubhāsanti vācitamanuvācenti seyyathidaṁ → tad anugāyanti tad anubhāsanti bhāsitam anubhāsanti vācitam anuvācenti seyyathīdaṁ (pts)“Well, what of the ancient seers of the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas, namely Aṭṭhaka, Vāmaka, Vāmadeva, Vessāmitta, Yamadaggi, Aṅgīrasa, Bhāradvāja, Vāseṭṭha, Kassapa, and Bhagu? They were the authors and propagators of the hymns. Their hymnal was sung and propagated and compiled in ancient times; and these days, brahmins continue to sing and chant it, chanting what was chanted and teaching what was taught. Tepi evamāhaṁsu:
+ → naṁ (th) | tepi evamāhaṁsu → te pi evam āhaṁsu (pts)Did they say: ‘mayametaṁ jānāma, mayametaṁ passāma, yattha vā brahmā, yena vā brahmā, yahiṁ vā brahmā’”ti?
mayametaṁ → mayam etaṁ (pts) | mayametaṁ → mayaṁ etaṁ (pts) | brahmāti → brahmā ti (pts)‘We know and see where the Divinity is or what way he lies’?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Iti kira, vāseṭṭha, natthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ekabrāhmaṇopi, yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (bjt) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭhoti no hidaṁ bho gotama kiṁ pana vāseṭṭha (th) | natthi → n atthi (pts) | ekabrāhmaṇopi → eka-brāhmaṇo pi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts)“So it seems that none of those brahmins have seen the Divinity with their own eyes, Natthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ekācariyopi, yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭhoti no hidaṁ bho gotama kiṁ pana vāseṭṭha (th) | natthi → n atthi (pts) | ekācariyopi → ekācariyo pi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts) Natthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ekācariyapācariyopi, yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
ekācariyapācariyopi → ācariyapācariyopi (sya-all) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭhoti no hidaṁ bho gotama kiṁ pana vāseṭṭha (th) | natthi → n atthi (pts) | ekācariyapācariyopi → ekācariya-pācariyo pi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts) Natthi koci tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ yāva sattamā ācariyāmahayugā yena brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
ācariyāmahayugā → ācariyamahayugā (bj) | sattamā ācariyāmahayugā → sattamācariyamahayugā (sya-all) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (bjt) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭhoti no hidaṁ bho gotama kiṁ pana vāseṭṭha (th) | natthi → n atthi (pts) | ācariyāmahayugā → ācariyamahāyugā (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts) Yepi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ pubbakā isayo mantānaṁ kattāro mantānaṁ pavattāro, yesamidaṁ etarahi tevijjā brāhmaṇā porāṇaṁ mantapadaṁ gītaṁ pavuttaṁ samihitaṁ, tadanugāyanti, tadanubhāsanti, bhāsitamanubhāsanti, vācitamanuvācenti, seyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako vāmako vāmadevo vessāmitto yamataggi aṅgīraso bhāradvājo vāseṭṭho kassapo bhagu, tepi na evamāhaṁsu:
samihitaṁ → samūhitaṁ (bj); samīhitaṁ (sya-all) | aṭṭhako → aṭṭako (bj) | yepi → yepi te (sya-all) | yamataggi aṅgīraso → yamataggī aṅgiṁraso (sya-all) | na → naṁ (sya-all) | aṅgīraso → aṅgiraso (pts) | seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th) | yepi → ye pi (pts) | yesamidaṁ → yesam idaṁ (pts) | tadanugāyanti tadanubhāsanti bhāsitamanubhāsanti vācitamanuvācenti seyyathidaṁ → tad anugāyanti tad anubhāsanti bhāsitaṁ anubhāsanti vācitam anuvācenti seyyathīdaṁ (pts) | tepi → te pi (pts) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts)and not even the ancient seers ‘mayametaṁ jānāma, mayametaṁ passāma, yattha vā brahmā, yena vā brahmā, yahiṁ vā brahmā’ti.
yena vā brahmā → (bj) | brahmāti teva → brahmā ti te vata (pts) | mayametaṁ → mayam etaṁ (pts)claimed to know where he is. Teva tevijjā brāhmaṇā evamāhaṁsu:
teva → te vata (bj) | vata → Sc adds va; Bm va; Bp ca instead of vata (and so in 18, 19, etc.). (pts note) | teva → te va (th) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts)Yet the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas say: ‘yaṁ na jānāma, yaṁ na passāma, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desema.
yaṁ → yaṁ mayaṁ (bj); mayaṁ (sya-all) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts)‘We teach the path to the company of that which we neither know nor see. Ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko, niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahma-sahavyatāyāti (pts)This is the only straight path, the direct route that delivers one who applies it to the company of Divinity.’

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? nanu evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti?
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all) | appāṭihīrakataṁ → See ix. 34. (pts note) | sampajjatīti → sampajjatī ti (bjt)This being so, doesn’t their statement turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”

“Addhā kho, bho gotama, evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti.
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all) | Addhā → Scmt Atha. (pts note)“Clearly that’s the case, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, te vata, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā yaṁ na jānanti, yaṁ na passanti, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desessanti. ‘Ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko, niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyā’ti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
te vata, vāseṭṭha → teva vāseṭṭha (mr), etthantare pāṭho sya-all potthakesu natthi | niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | vāseṭṭha te vata → (sya-all) | desessanti → desissanti (sya-all) | vata → teva (cck: ka.) | vata → Bm Sādhu Vāseṭṭha. Te va; Bp Sādhu vata Vāseṭṭha. (pts note) | desessanti → So SS; Bm desissanti (as in 20). (pts note) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti netaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāyāti n etaṁ (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha. For it is impossible that they should teach the path to that which they neither know nor see.

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, andhaveṇi paramparasaṁsattā purimopi na passati, majjhimopi na passati, pacchimopi na passati;
andhaveṇi paramparasaṁsattā → andhaveṇiparamparaṁ saṁsattā (bj); andhaveṇīparaṁparasaṁsattā (sya-all) | passati majjhimopi → jānāsi (pts) | andha-veṇi → Sd venu; Bp paveṇi. (pts note) | saṁsattā → Scdt paramparāyaṁ sattā; Bm paramparasaṁsattā; Bp paramparaṁ saṁsattā. (pts note) | seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts) | andhaveṇi paramparasaṁsattā purimopi → andha-veṇi paramparā saṁsattā purimo pi (pts) | majjhimopi → majjhimo pi (pts) | pacchimopi → pacchimo pi (pts)Suppose there was a queue of blind men, each holding the one in front: the first one does not see, the middle one does not see, and the last one does not see. evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, andhaveṇūpamaṁ maññe tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ bhāsitaṁ, purimopi na passati, majjhimopi na passati, pacchimopi na passati.
yeva → Bm venūpamaṁ maññe; Bp andha-pa veṇūpamaṁ maññe. (pts note) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | andhaveṇūpamaṁ maññe → andha-veṇūpamaṁ yeva (pts) | bhāsitaṁ purimopi → bhāsitam purimo pi (pts) | majjhimopi → majjhimo pi (pts) | pacchimopi → pacchimo pi (pts)In the same way, it seems to me that the brahmins’ statement turns out to be comparable to a queue of blind men: the first one does not see, the middle one does not see, and the last one does not see. Tesamidaṁ tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ bhāsitaṁ hassakaññeva sampajjati, nāmakaññeva sampajjati, rittakaññeva sampajjati, tucchakaññeva sampajjati.
hassakaññeva → hassakaṁyeva (th) | nāmakaññeva → nāmakaṁyeva (th) | rittakaññeva → rittakaṁyeva (th) | tucchakaññeva → tucchakaṁyeva (th) | tesamidaṁ → tesaṁ idaṁ (pts) | hassakaññeva → hassakaṁ yeva (pts) | nāmakaññeva → nāmakaṁ yeva (pts) | rittakaññeva → rittakaṁ yeva (pts) | tucchakaññeva → tucchakaṁ yeva (pts)Their statement turns out to be a joke—mere words, vacuous and hollow.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? passanti tevijjā brāhmaṇā candimasūriye, aññe cāpi bahujanā, yato ca candimasūriyā uggacchanti, yattha ca ogacchanti, āyācanti thomayanti pañjalikā namassamānā anuparivattantī”ti?
candimasūriye → candimasuriye (sya-all) | cāpi bahujanā → vāpi bahū janā (sya-all) | candimasūriyā → candimasuriyā (sya-all) | bahujano → BB sūriye añe cāpi bahujanā (four times). (pts note) | ogacchanti → Bm oggacchanti (four times). (pts note) | anuparivattantīti → anuparivattantī ti (bjt) | candimasūriye aññe cāpi bahujanā → candima-suriye añño vā pi bahujano (pts) | candimasūriyā → candima-suriyā (pts)Do the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas see the sun and moon just as other folk do? And do they supplicate and entreat them, following their course from where they rise to where they set with cupped palms held in worship?”

“Evaṁ, bho gotama, passanti tevijjā brāhmaṇā candimasūriye, aññe cāpi bahujanā, yato ca candimasūriyā uggacchanti, yattha ca ogacchanti, āyācanti thomayanti pañjalikā namassamānā anuparivattantī”ti.
candimasūriye → candimasuriye (sya-all) | cāpi bahujanā → vāpi bahū janā (sya-all) | candimasūriyā → candimasuriyā (sya-all) | candimasūriye aññe cāpi bahujanā → candima-suriye añño vā pi bahujano (pts)“Yes, worthy Gotama.”

“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? yaṁ passanti tevijjā brāhmaṇā candimasūriye, aññe cāpi bahujanā, yato ca candimasūriyā uggacchanti, yattha ca ogacchanti, āyācanti thomayanti pañjalikā namassamānā anuparivattanti, pahonti tevijjā brāhmaṇā candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāya maggaṁ desetuṁ:
candimasūriye → candimasuriye (bj, sya-all) | candimasūriyā → candimasuriyā (bj, sya-all) | candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāya → candimasuriyānaṁ sahavyatāya (bj) | cāpi bahujanā → vāpi bahū janā (sya-all) | anuparivattanti → anuparivattantīti tesampi (sya-all) | candimasūriyānaṁ → candimasuriyānaṁ (sya-all) | Yam → Sdmt Bm sampassanti; Sc samphassanti; Bp Sum. yam. (pts note) | pahonti → Sd Bm add tevijjā brāhmanā. (pts note) | candimasūriye aññe cāpi bahujanā → candima-suriye añño vā pi bahujano (pts) | ca candimasūriyā → candima-suriyā (pts) | tevijjā brāhmaṇā candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāya → candima-suriyānaṁ sahavyatāya (pts)Though this is so, are the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas able to teach the path to the company of the sun and moon, saying: ‘ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko, niyyāti takkarassa candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāyā’”ti?
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāyāti → candimasuriyānaṁ sahavyatāyāti (bj) | candimasūriyānaṁ → candimasuriyānaṁ (sya-all) | candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāyāti → candimasuriyānaṁ sahavyatāyā ti (bjt) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāyāti → candima-suriyānaṁ sahavyatāyāti (pts)‘This is the only straight path, the direct route that delivers one who applies it to the company of the sun and moon’?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Iti kira, vāseṭṭha, yaṁ passanti tevijjā brāhmaṇā candimasūriye, aññe cāpi bahujanā, yato ca candimasūriyā uggacchanti, yattha ca ogacchanti, āyācanti thomayanti pañjalikā namassamānā anuparivattanti, tesampi nappahonti candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāya maggaṁ desetuṁ:
tesampi → tepi (bj) | candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāya → candimasuriyānaṁ sahavyatāya (bj) | candimasūriye → candimasuriye (sya-all) | cāpi bahujanā → vāpi bahū janā (sya-all) | candimasūriyā → candimasuriyā (sya-all) | nappahonti candimasūriyānaṁ → na pahonti candimasuriyānaṁ (sya-all) | candimasūriye aññe cāpi bahujanā → candima-suriye añño vā pi bahujano (pts) | tesampi nappahonti candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāya → tesam pi na ppahonti candima-suriyānaṁ sahavyatāya (pts)“So it seems that even though the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas see the sun and moon, they are not able to teach the path to the company of the sun and moon. ‘ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko, niyyāti takkarassa candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāyā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāyāti iti → candimasuriyānaṁ sahavyatāyāti kiṁ (bj) | candimasūriyānaṁ → candimasuriyānaṁ (sya-all) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | candimasūriyānaṁ sahabyatāyāti → candima-suriyānaṁ sahavyatāyāti (pts)

Iti pana na kira tevijjehi brāhmaṇehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
pana → kiṁ pana (bj, sya-all, pts1ed) | iti → kiṁ (sya-all) | pana → kiṁ pana (cck: sī. syā. pī.) | na → St kiṁ hi pana; Scdm kiṁ pana; Bm iti pana na. (pts note) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (bjt, th) | iti → kim (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts)But it seems that even though they have not seen the Divinity with their own eyes, Napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ācariyehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
napi → na pi (bjt, pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (bjt, th) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts) Napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ācariyapācariyehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
napi → na pi (bjt, pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (th) | ācariyapācariyehi → ācariya-pācariyehi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts) Napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ yāva sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
sattamā → sattamehi (?) | ācariyāmahayugehi → ācariyamahayugehi (bj) | sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi → sattamācariyamahayugehi (sya-all); sattamācariyamahāyugehi brāhmaṇehi (pts) | sattamā → sattamehi (cck: ?) | sattamācariyamahāyugehi → Bm sattamā ācariyā mahayugehi (and in 20, 22). (pts note) | napi → na pi (bjt, pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (th) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts) Yepi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ pubbakā isayo mantānaṁ kattāro mantānaṁ pavattāro, yesamidaṁ etarahi tevijjā brāhmaṇā porāṇaṁ mantapadaṁ gītaṁ pavuttaṁ samihitaṁ, tadanugāyanti, tadanubhāsanti, bhāsitamanubhāsanti, vācitamanuvācenti, seyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako vāmako vāmadevo vessāmitto yamataggi aṅgīraso bhāradvājo vāseṭṭho kassapo bhagu, tepi na evamāhaṁsu:
samihitaṁ → samūhitaṁ (bj); samīhitaṁ (sya-all) | aṭṭhako → aṭṭako (bj) | yamataggi aṅgīraso → yamataggī aṅgiṁraso (sya-all) | na → naṁ (sya-all) | seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th) | yepi → ye pi (pts) | yesamidaṁ → yesam idaṁ (pts) | mantapadaṁ → manta-padaṁ (pts) | tadanugāyanti tadanubhāsanti bhāsitamanubhāsanti vācitamanuvācenti seyyathidaṁ → tad anugāyanti tad anubhāsanti bhāsitam anubhāsanti vācitam anuvācenti seyyathīdaṁ (pts) | aṅgīraso → aṅgiraso (pts) | tepi → te pi (pts) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts) ‘mayametaṁ jānāma, mayametaṁ passāma, yattha vā brahmā, yena vā brahmā, yahiṁ vā brahmā’ti.
brahmāti teva → brahmā ti te vata (pts) | mayametaṁ → mayam etaṁ (pts) | vā brahmāti → va brahmā ti te (pts) Teva tevijjā brāhmaṇā evamāhaṁsu:
teva → te vata (bj) | vata → Bm va. (pts note) | teva → te va (th) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts)they still claim ‘yaṁ na jānāma, yaṁ na passāma, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desema—ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | ayameva → ayam eva (pts) | ayamañjasāyano → ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahma-sahavyatāyāti (pts)to teach the path to the company of that which they neither know nor see.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? nanu evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti?
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all) | sampajjatīti → sampajjatī ti (bjt)This being so, doesn’t their statement turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”

“Addhā kho, bho gotama, evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti.
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all)“Clearly that’s the case, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, te vata, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā yaṁ na jānanti, yaṁ na passanti, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desessanti: ‘ayameva ujumaggo, ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko, niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyā’ti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | vijjati → vijjatī ti (bj) | vata → ca (sya-all) | vāseṭṭha → vaseṭṭha (pts) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti netaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāyāti n etaṁ (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha. For it is impossible that they should teach the path to that which they neither know nor see.

2.1. Janapadakalyāṇīupamā2.1. The Simile of the Finest Lady in the Land

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, puriso evaṁ vadeyya:
seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts)Suppose a man were to say, ‘ahaṁ yā imasmiṁ janapade janapadakalyāṇī, taṁ icchāmi, taṁ kāmemī’ti.
Ahaṁ → Bm adds kho. (pts note) | janapadakalyāṇī → janapada-kalyāṇī (pts)‘Whoever the finest lady in the land is, it is her that I want, her that I desire!’

Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him, ‘ambho purisa, yaṁ tvaṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ icchasi kāmesi, jānāsi taṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ—
janapadakalyāṇiṁ → janapada-kalyāṇiṁ (pts)‘My man, that finest lady in the land who you desire—do you know whether khattiyī vā brāhmaṇī vā vessī vā suddī vā’ti?
khattiyī → khattiyiṁ (sya-all) | brāhmaṇī → brāhmaṇiṁ (sya-all) | vessī → vessiṁ (sya-all) | suddī → suddiṁ (sya-all) | khattiyī → khattiyiṁ (bj: syā) | brāhmaṇī → brāhmaṇiṁ (bj: syā) | vessī → vessiṁ (bj: syā) | suddī → suddiṁ (bj: syā) | vā → BB add ti (and so after nagare vā ). (pts note) | vāti → vā ti (bjt)she’s an aristocrat, a brahmin, a peasant, or a menial?’ Iti puṭṭho ‘no’ti vadeyya.
noti → no ti (pts)Asked this, he’d say, ‘No.’

Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him, ‘ambho purisa, yaṁ tvaṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ icchasi kāmesi, jānāsi taṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ—evaṁnāmā evaṅgottāti vā, dīghā vā rassā vā majjhimā vā kāḷī vā sāmā vā maṅguracchavī vāti, amukasmiṁ gāme vā nigame vā nagare vā’ti?
icchasi kāmesi → na (bj) | taṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ → na passasi (bj) | evaṅgottāti → vā evaṁgottā (bj, sya-all) | kāḷī → kāḷikā (sya-all) | maṅguracchavī → maṅguracchavi (sya-all) | vā → BB majjhimā vā kāḷī vā; Sd kāḷi vā majjhī vā. (pts note) | ti → Sd ti vā. (pts note) | evaṅgottāti → evaṁgottāti (my, ms2005) | janapadakalyāṇiṁ → janapada-kalyāṇiṁ (pts) | evaṁnāmā evaṅgottāti → evaṁ-nāmā evaṁ-gottā ti (pts) | maṅguracchavī vāti → maṅgura-cchavī vā ti (pts) | vāti → vā ti (pts)‘My friend, that finest lady in the land who you desire—do you know her name or clan? Whether she’s tall or short or medium? Whether her skin is black, brown, or dingy? Whether she comes from such-and-such village, town, or city?’

Iti puṭṭho ‘no’ti vadeyya.
noti → no ti (pts)Asked this, he’d say, ‘No.’

Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him, ‘ambho purisa, yaṁ tvaṁ na jānāsi na passasi, taṁ tvaṁ icchasi kāmesī’ti?‘My man, do you desire someone who you’ve never even known or seen?’

Iti puṭṭho ‘āmā’ti vadeyya.
āmāti → āmoti (bj) | āmāti → āmo ti (pts)Asked this, he’d say, ‘Yes.’

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? nanu evaṁ sante tassa purisassa appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti?
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all) | sampajjatīti → sampajjatī ti (bjt)This being so, doesn’t that man’s statement turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”

“Addhā kho, bho gotama, evaṁ sante tassa purisassa appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti.
evaṁ sante → (bj) | appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all)“Clearly that’s the case, worthy Gotama.”

“Evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, na kira tevijjehi brāhmaṇehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho, napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ācariyehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho, napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ācariyapācariyehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (bjt) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho napi → sakkhi-diṭṭho na pi (pts) | ācariyapācariyehi → ācariya-pācariyehi (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi-diṭṭho (pts)“In the same way, Napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ yāva sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
ācariyāmahayugehi → ācariyamahayugehi (bj) | sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi → sattamācariyamahayugehi (sya-all) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (bjt, pts) | napi → na pi (pts) | sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi → sattamācariya-mahāyugehi (pts) Yepi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ pubbakā isayo mantānaṁ kattāro mantānaṁ pavattāro, yesamidaṁ etarahi tevijjā brāhmaṇā porāṇaṁ mantapadaṁ gītaṁ pavuttaṁ samihitaṁ, tadanugāyanti, tadanubhāsanti, bhāsitamanubhāsanti, vācitamanuvācenti, seyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako vāmako vāmadevo vessāmitto yamataggi aṅgīraso bhāradvājo vāseṭṭho kassapo bhagu, tepi na evamāhaṁsu:
samihitaṁ → samūhitaṁ (bj); samīhitaṁ (sya-all) | aṭṭhako → aṭṭako (bj) | bhagu → bhagū (bj) | tadanubhāsanti → tamanubhāsanti (sya-all) | yepi → ye pi (pts) | yesamidaṁ → yesam idaṁ (pts) | tadanugāyanti tadanubhāsanti bhāsitamanubhāsanti vācitamanuvācenti seyyathidaṁ → tad anugāyanti tad anubhāsanti bhāsitam anubhāsanti vācitam anuvācenti seyyathīdaṁ (pts) | aṅgīraso → aṅgiraso (pts) | tepi → te pi (pts) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts) ‘mayametaṁ jānāma, mayametaṁ passāma, yattha vā brahmā, yena vā brahmā, yahiṁ vā brahmā’ti.
mayametaṁ → mayam etaṁ (pts) | brahmāti → brahmā ti te (pts) Teva tevijjā brāhmaṇā evamāhaṁsu:
teva → te vata (bj) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts) ‘yaṁ na jānāma, yaṁ na passāma, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desema—ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahma-sahavyatāyāti (pts) Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha, nanu evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti?
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all) | kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | sampajjatīti → sampajjatī ti (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)doesn’t the statement of those brahmins turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”

“Addhā kho, bho gotama, evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti.
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (sya-all)“Clearly that’s the case, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, te vata, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā yaṁ na jānanti, yaṁ na passanti, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desessanti—ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyāti netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | vijjati → vijjatī ti (bj) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti netaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāyāti n etaṁ (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha. For it is impossible that they should teach the path to that which they neither know nor see.

2.2. Nisseṇīupamā2.2. The Simile of the Ladder

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, puriso cātumahāpathe nisseṇiṁ kareyya pāsādassa ārohaṇāya.
cātummahāpathe → Bm catumahā-. (pts note) | ārohaṇāya → ārohanāya (th) | seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts)Suppose a man was to build a ladder at the crossroads for climbing up to a stilt longhouse.

Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him, ‘ambho purisa, yassa tvaṁ pāsādassa ārohaṇāya nisseṇiṁ karosi, jānāsi taṁ pāsādaṁ—puratthimāya vā disāya dakkhiṇāya vā disāya pacchimāya vā disāya uttarāya vā disāya ucco vā nīco vā majjhimo vā’ti?
yassa tvaṁ → yaṁ tvaṁ (sya-all); yassa (pts1ed) | tvaṁ → yaṁ tvaṁ (cck: syā.) | yassa → Bm adds tvaṁ (as SS do at ix. 37). (pts note) | puratthimāya → BB add vā (and so before each disāya). (pts note) | majjho → BB majjhimo. (pts note) | vāti → vā ti (bjt) | ārohaṇāya → ārohanāya (th) | majjhimo vāti → majjho vā ti (pts)‘My man, that stilt longhouse for which you’re building a ladder—do you know whether it’s to the north, south, east, or west? Or whether it’s tall or short or medium?’

Iti puṭṭho ‘no’ti vadeyya.
noti → no ti (pts)Asked this, he’d say, ‘No.’

Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him, ‘ambho purisa, yaṁ tvaṁ na jānāsi, na passasi, tassa tvaṁ pāsādassa ārohaṇāya nisseṇiṁ karosī’ti?
tvaṁ → SS taṁ. (pts note) | karosīti → karosī ti (bjt) | ārohaṇāya → ārohanāya (th)‘My man, are you building a ladder for a longhouse that you’ve never even known or seen?’

Iti puṭṭho ‘āmā’ti vadeyya.
āmāti → āmoti (bj) | āmāti → āmo ti (pts)Asked this, he’d say, ‘Yes.’

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? nanu evaṁ sante tassa purisassa appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti?
sampajjatīti → sampajjatī ti (bjt) | appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (th)This being so, doesn’t that man’s statement turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”

“Addhā kho, bho gotama, evaṁ sante tassa purisassa appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti.
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (th)“Clearly that’s the case, worthy Gotama.”

“Evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, na kira tevijjehi brāhmaṇehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho, napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ācariyehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho, napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ācariyapācariyehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho, napi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ yāva sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi brahmā sakkhidiṭṭho.
kira → (bj) | ācariyāmahayugehi → ācariyamahayugehi (bj) | Brahmā → Bm sattamā ācariyā mahayugehi Brahmā. (pts note) | sakkhidiṭṭho → sakkhi diṭṭho (bjt, th) | sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi → sattamācariyamahayugehi (th) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | sakkhidiṭṭho napi → sakkhi-diṭṭho na pi (pts) | ācariyapācariyehi → ācariya-pācariyehi (pts) | sattamā ācariyāmahayugehi → sattamācariya-mahāyugehi brāhmaṇehi (pts)“In the same way, Yepi kira tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ pubbakā isayo mantānaṁ kattāro mantānaṁ pavattāro, yesamidaṁ etarahi tevijjā brāhmaṇā porāṇaṁ mantapadaṁ gītaṁ pavuttaṁ samihitaṁ, tadanugāyanti, tadanubhāsanti, bhāsitamanubhāsanti, vācitamanuvācenti, seyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako vāmako vāmadevo vessāmitto yamataggi aṅgīraso bhāradvājo vāseṭṭho kassapo bhagu, tepi na evamāhaṁsu—
samihitaṁ → samūhitaṁ (bj) | aṭṭhako → aṭṭako (bj) | samihitaṁ → samīhitaṁ (th) | tadanubhāsanti → tamanubhāsanti (th) | seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th) | yamataggi aṅgīraso → yamataggī aṅgiraso (th) | yepi → ye pi (pts) | yesamidaṁ → yesam idaṁ (pts) | tadanugāyanti tadanubhāsanti bhāsitamanubhāsanti vācitamanuvācenti seyyathidaṁ → tad anugāyanti tad anubhāsanti bhāsitam anubhāsanti vācitam anuvācenti seyyathīdaṁ (pts) | aṅgīraso → aṅgiraso (pts) | tepi → te pi (pts) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts) mayametaṁ jānāma, mayametaṁ passāma, yattha vā brahmā, yena vā brahmā, yahiṁ vā brahmāti.
mayametaṁ → mayam etaṁ (pts) | brahmāti → brahmā ti te (pts) Teva tevijjā brāhmaṇā evamāhaṁsu:
teva → te vata (bj) | teva → te va (th) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts) ‘yaṁ na jānāma, yaṁ na passāma, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desema, ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyā’ti.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahma-sahavyatāyāti (pts) Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha, nanu evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti?
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | sampajjatīti → sampajjatī ti (bjt) | appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (th) | kiṁ → kim (pts)doesn’t the statement of those brahmins turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”

“Addhā kho, bho gotama, evaṁ sante tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti.
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihirikataṁ (th)“Clearly that’s the case, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, te vata, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā yaṁ na jānanti, yaṁ na passanti, tassa sahabyatāya maggaṁ desessanti. Ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano niyyāniko niyyāti takkarassa brahmasahabyatāyāti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
niyyāniko → niyyāṇiko (bj) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasabyatāyāti (cck) | desessanti → All MSS. desissanti. (pts note) | sahabyatāya → sahavyatāya (bjt, pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti → brahmasahavyatāyāti (bjt) | vata → ca (th) | vāseṭṭha → vaseṭṭha (pts) | ayameva ujumaggo ayamañjasāyano → ayam eva uju-maggo ayam añjasāyano (pts) | brahmasahabyatāyāti netaṁ ṭhānaṁ → brahma-sahavyatāyāti n etaṁ ṭhānam (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha. For it is impossible that they should teach the path to that which they neither know nor see.

2.3. Aciravatīnadīupamā2.3. The Simile of the Aciravatī River

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, ayaṁ aciravatī nadī pūrā udakassa samatittikā kākapeyyā.
pūrā → SS purā (and in 26). (pts note) | samatittikā → Bm samatitthikā (and in 26, 29). See Rh. D's. note in ‘Buddhist Suttas,'; p. 178. (pts note) | seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts) | ayaṁ → ayam (pts)Suppose the Aciravatī River was full to the brim so a crow could drink from it. Atha puriso āgaccheyya pāratthiko pāragavesī pāragāmī pāraṁ taritukāmo.
atha → athakho (sya-all) | pāra-gavesī → Scmt omit and Bm inserts after pāra-gāmi (and so also in 26). (pts note) | pāragavesī pāragāmī pāraṁ taritukāmo → pāra-gavesī pāra-gāmī pāran taritu-kāmo (pts)Then along comes a person who wants to cross over to the far shore. So orime tīre ṭhito pārimaṁ tīraṁ avheyya:
orime tīre → orimatīre (pts) | pārimaṁ tīraṁ → pārimantīraṁ (th) | orime tīre → orima-tīre (pts)Standing on the near shore, they’d call out to the far shore, ‘ehi pārāpāraṁ, ehi pārāpāran’ti.
pārāpāraṁ → pārā pāraṁ (th, pts) | pārāpāranti → pārā pāranti (th) | pārāpāranti → pārā pāran ti (pts)‘Come here, far shore! Come here, far shore!’

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
vāseṭṭha → vaseṭṭha (pts) | kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? api nu tassa purisassa avhāyanahetu vā āyācanahetu vā patthanahetu vā abhinandanahetu vā aciravatiyā nadiyā pārimaṁ tīraṁ orimaṁ tīraṁ āgaccheyyā”ti?
patthanahetu → patthanāhetu (bj) | avhāyana-hetu → Smt avhāna (see 25 and D. i. 26). (pts note) | āgaccheyyāti → āgaccheyyā ti (bjt) | pārimaṁ tīraṁ orimaṁ tīraṁ → pārimantīraṁ orimantīraṁ (th) | āyācanahetu → āyācana-hetu (pts) | patthanahetu → patthana-hetu (pts) | abhinandanahetu → abhinandana-hetu (pts) | pārimaṁ → pāriman (pts) | orimaṁ → oriman (pts)Would the far shore of the Aciravatī River come over to the near shore because of that man’s call, request, desire, or expectation?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā ye dhammā brāhmaṇakārakā te dhamme pahāya vattamānā, ye dhammā abrāhmaṇakārakā te dhamme samādāya vattamānā evamāhaṁsu:
brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇa karaṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | abrāhmaṇakārakā → abrāhmaṇakaraṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | brāhmaṇa-karaṇā → Bm kāraṇā, four times in this , and again in 28, (and so Sm here corrected to karaṇā). (pts note) | brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇakaraṇā (th) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | evamāhaṁsu → evam āhaṁsu (pts)“In the same way, Vāseṭṭha, the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas proceed having given up those things that make one a true brahmin, and having undertaken those things that make one not a true brahmin. Yet they say: ‘indamavhayāma, somamavhayāma, varuṇamavhayāma, īsānamavhayāma, pajāpatimavhayāma, brahmamavhayāma, mahiddhimavhayāma, yamamavhayāmā’ti.
mahiddhimavhayāma yamamavhayāmāti → mahindamavhayāma yāmamavhayāmāti (bj) | Mahiddhim → SS omit Mahiddhiṁ and Yamaṁ. (pts note)‘We call upon Indra! We call upon Soma! We call upon Varuṇa! We call upon Īsāna! We call upon the Progenitor! We call upon the Divinity! We call upon Mahiddhi! We call upon Yama!’

Te vata, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā ye dhammā brāhmaṇakārakā te dhamme pahāya vattamānā, ye dhammā abrāhmaṇakārakā te dhamme samādāya vattamānā avhāyanahetu vā āyācanahetu vā patthanahetu vā abhinandanahetu vā kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā brahmānaṁ sahabyūpagā bhavissantīti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇakaraṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | abrāhmaṇakārakā → abrāhmaṇakaraṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | avhāyanahetu → avhānahetu (bj) | patthanahetu → patthanāhetu (bj) | paraṁ maraṇā brahmānaṁ sahabyūpagā → parammaraṇā brahmuno sahavyūpagā (bj) | vata → ca (sya-all) | vattamānā → pavattamānā (sya-all) | brahmuno → brahmānaṁ (bj: PTS) | brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇa-karaṇā (pts) | avhāyanahetu → avhāyana-hetu (pts) | āyācanahetu → āyācana-hetu (pts) | patthanahetu → patthana-hetu (pts) | abhinandanahetu → abhinandana-hetu (pts) | paraṁ → param (pts) | netaṁ → n etaṁ (pts)So long as they proceed in this way it’s impossible that they will, when the body breaks up, after death, be reborn in the company of Divinity.

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, ayaṁ aciravatī nadī pūrā udakassa samatittikā kākapeyyā.
seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts) | ayaṁ → ayam (pts)Suppose the Aciravatī River was full to the brim so a crow could drink from it. Atha puriso āgaccheyya pāratthiko pāragavesī pāragāmī pāraṁ taritukāmo.
pāragavesī pāragāmī pāraṁ taritukāmo → pāra-gavesī pāra-gāmī pāran taritu-kāmo (pts)Then along comes a person who wants to cross over to the far shore. So orime tīre daḷhāya anduyā pacchābāhaṁ gāḷhabandhanaṁ baddho.
anduyā → rajjuyā (sya-all) | baddho → bandho (sya-all) | orime tīre → orimatīre (pts) | anduyā → rajjuyā (bj: syā) | orime tīre → orima-tīre (pts) | pacchābāhaṁ gāḷhabandhanaṁ → pacchā-bāhaṁ gāḷha-bandhanaṁ (pts)But while still on the near shore, their arms are tied tightly behind their back with a strong chain.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? api nu so puriso aciravatiyā nadiyā orimā tīrā pārimaṁ tīraṁ gaccheyyā”ti?
api nu → nanu (sya-all) | orimā tīrā pārimaṁ → orimatīrā pāriman (pts) | puriso → Scdt omit puriso, but Sdt have it in 29. (pts note) | gaccheyyāti → Scdt āgaccheyyāti. (pts note) | gaccheyyāti → gaccheyyā ti (bjt) | pārimaṁ tīraṁ → pārimantīraṁ (th) | orimā tīrā pārimaṁ → orima-tīrā pāriman (pts)Could that person cross over to the far shore?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, pañcime kāmaguṇā ariyassa vinaye andūtipi vuccanti, bandhanantipi vuccanti.
andūtipi → adduntipi (sya-all) | vuccanti → Sc andhūti vuccanti bandhanan ti; Sd andhūti pi vuccati bandhanan ti pi vuccanti; Sm andūti pavuccati bandhanan ti; St andhūti pi vuccati bandhanan ti pi vuccati; Bp addhu (always). (pts note) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | pañcime kāmaguṇā → pañc ime kāma-guṇā (pts) | andūtipi → andūti pi (pts)“In the same way, the five kinds of sensual stimulation are called ‘chains’ and ‘fetters’ in the training of the Noble One. Katame pañca?What five? Cakkhuviññeyyā rūpā iṭṭhā kantā manāpā piyarūpā kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā.
cakkhuviññeyyā → cakkhuviññeyya (bj) | rajanīyā → Scd rajanīyyā; Bm rajaniyā (and below). (pts note) | kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā → kāmūpasañhitā rajaniyā (th) | cakkhuviññeyyā → cakkhu-viññeyyā (pts) | piyarūpā → piya-rūpā (pts)Sights known by the eye, which are likable, desirable, agreeable, pleasant, sensual, and arousing. Sotaviññeyyā saddā …pe…Sounds known by the ear … ghānaviññeyyā gandhā …
ghānaviññeyyā → ghāna-viññeyyā (pts)Smells known by the nose … jivhāviññeyyā rasā …
jivhāviññeyyā → jivhā-viññeyyā (pts)Tastes known by the tongue … kāyaviññeyyā phoṭṭhabbā iṭṭhā kantā manāpā piyarūpā kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā.
kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā → kāmūpasañhitā rajaniyāti (sya-all) | phoṭṭhabbā → poṭṭhabbā (pts) | kāyaviññeyyā phoṭṭhabbā → kāya-viññeyyā poṭṭhabbā (pts) | piyarūpā → piya-rūpā (pts)Touches known by the body, which are likable, desirable, agreeable, pleasant, sensual, and arousing.

Ime kho, vāseṭṭha, pañca kāmaguṇā ariyassa vinaye andūtipi vuccanti, bandhanantipi vuccanti.
andūtipi → andutipi (bj); adduntipi (sya-all) | kāmaguṇā → kāma-guṇā (pts) | andūtipi → andūti pi (pts) | bandhanantipi → bandhanan ti pi (pts)These are the five kinds of sensual stimulation that are called ‘chains’ and ‘fetters’ in the training of the Noble One. Ime kho, vāseṭṭha, pañca kāmaguṇe tevijjā brāhmaṇā gadhitā mucchitā ajjhopannā anādīnavadassāvino anissaraṇapaññā paribhuñjanti.
gadhitā → gathitā (bj, pts) | ajjhopannā → ajjhosannā (sya-all) | ajjhopannā anādīnavadassāvino → ajjhāpannā anādīnavadassāvī (pts) | anādīnava-dassāvī → Bm (twice) ajjhopannā anādinava-dassāvino. (pts note) | pañca kāmaguṇe → pañcakāmaguṇe (bjt) | kāmaguṇe → kāma-guṇe (pts) | ajjhopannā anādīnavadassāvino anissaraṇapaññā → ajjhāpannā anādīnava-dassāvī anissaraṇa-paññā (pts)The brahmins proficient in the three Vedas enjoy these five kinds of sensual stimulation tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape. Te vata, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā ye dhammā brāhmaṇakārakā, te dhamme pahāya vattamānā, ye dhammā abrāhmaṇakārakā, te dhamme samādāya vattamānā pañca kāmaguṇe gadhitā mucchitā ajjhopannā anādīnavadassāvino anissaraṇapaññā paribhuñjantā kāmandubandhanabaddhā kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā brahmānaṁ sahabyūpagā bhavissantīti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇakaraṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | abrāhmaṇakārakā → abrāhmaṇakaraṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | pañca kāmaguṇe gadhitā → pañcakāmaguṇe gathitā (bj) | paraṁ maraṇā brahmānaṁ sahabyūpagā → parammaraṇā brahmuno sahavyūpagā (bj) | vata → ca (sya-all) | ajjhopannā → ajjhosannā (sya-all) | paribhuñjantā kāmandubandhanabaddhā → paribhuñjanti kāmachandabandhā (sya-all) | dhamme → dhammā (pts) | gadhitā → gathitā (pts) | ajjhopannā anādīnavadassāvino → ajjhāpannā anādīnavadassāvī (pts) | kāmandubandhanabaddhā → kāmaanubandhanabaddhā (pts) | vattamānā → SS pavattamānā. (pts note) | kāmaanubandhana-baddhā → Bp addhu-bandha-baddhā. (pts note) | vijjati → SS vijjatīti. (pts note) | brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇa-karaṇā (pts) | kāmaguṇe gadhitā → kāma-guṇe gathitā (pts) | ajjhopannā anādīnavadassāvino anissaraṇapaññā → ajjhāpannā anādīnava-dassāvī anissaraṇa-paññā (pts) | paraṁ → param (pts) | netaṁ → n etaṁ (pts)So long as they enjoy them it’s impossible that they will, when the body breaks up, after death, be reborn in the company of Divinity.

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, ayaṁ aciravatī nadī pūrā udakassa samatittikā kākapeyyā.
seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts)Suppose the Aciravatī River was full to the brim so a crow could drink from it. Atha puriso āgaccheyya pāratthiko pāragavesī pāragāmī pāraṁ taritukāmo.
atha → athakho (sya-all) | pāraṁ → pāriman (pts) | pāragavesī pāragāmī pāraṁ taritukāmo → pāra-gavesī pāra-gāmī pāriman taritu-kāmo (pts)Then along comes a person who wants to cross over to the far shore. So orime tīre sasīsaṁ pārupitvā nipajjeyya.
pārupitvā → Scdt parūpitvā; Bp pārumpitvā. (pts note) | nipajjeyya → Bm nippajjeyya. (pts note)But they’d lie down wrapped in cloth from head to foot.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? api nu so puriso aciravatiyā nadiyā orimā tīrā pārimaṁ tīraṁ gaccheyyā”ti?
orimā tīrā → orimatīrā (pts) | gaccheyyāti → gaccheyyā ti (bjt) | + → kho (th) | pārimaṁ tīraṁ → pārimantīraṁ (th) | orimā tīrā → orima-tīrā (pts)Could that person cross over to the far shore?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, pañcime nīvaraṇā ariyassa vinaye āvaraṇātipi vuccanti, nīvaraṇātipi vuccanti, onāhanātipi vuccanti, pariyonāhanātipi vuccanti.
onāhanātipi → onāhātipi (bj); onahā ti pi (pts) | pariyonāhanātipi → pariyonāhātipi (bj); pariyohanātipi (sya-all); pariyonahā ti pi (pts) | pariyonahā → Bm onāpānā . . . pariyonāpānā (twice); Bp onāhā . . . pariyonāhā (twice). (pts note) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | pañcime → pañc ime (pts) | āvaraṇātipi → āvaraṇā ti pi (pts) | nīvaraṇātipi → nīvaraṇā ti pi (pts)“In the same way, the five hindrances are called ‘obstacles’ and ‘hindrances’ and ‘encasings’ and ‘shrouds’ in the training of the Noble One. Katame pañca?What five? Kāmacchandanīvaraṇaṁ, byāpādanīvaraṇaṁ, thinamiddhanīvaraṇaṁ, uddhaccakukkuccanīvaraṇaṁ, vicikicchānīvaraṇaṁ.
thinamiddhanīvaraṇaṁ → thīnamiddhanīvaraṇaṁ (sya-all) | byāpādanīvaraṇaṁ thinamiddhanīvaraṇaṁ → vyāpādanīvaraṇaṁ thīnamiddhanīvaraṇaṁ (pts) | kāmacchandanīvaraṇaṁ → kāmachandanīvaraṇaṁ (th)The hindrances of sensual desire, ill will, dullness and drowsiness, restlessness and remorse, and doubt. Ime kho, vāseṭṭha, pañca nīvaraṇā ariyassa vinaye āvaraṇātipi vuccanti, nīvaraṇātipi vuccanti, onāhanātipi vuccanti, pariyonāhanātipi vuccanti.
onāhanātipi → onāhātipi (bj); onahā ti pi (pts) | pariyonāhanātipi → pariyonāhātipi (bj); pariyohanātipi (sya-all); pariyonahā ti pi (pts) | pañca nīvaraṇā → pañcanīvaraṇā (bjt) | āvaraṇātipi → āvaraṇā ti pi (pts) | nīvaraṇātipi → nīvaraṇā ti pi (pts)These five hindrances are called ‘obstacles’ and ‘hindrances’ and ‘encasings’ and ‘shrouds’ in the training of the Noble One.

Imehi kho, vāseṭṭha, pañcahi nīvaraṇehi tevijjā brāhmaṇā āvuṭā nivutā onaddhā pariyonaddhā.
pariyonaddhā → te (sya-all, mr) | onaddhā → ophuṭā (bj, mr); ophutā (sya-all, pts1ed) | nivutā onaddhā → nivuṭā ovuṭā (bj); nivuṭā ophutā (sya-all) | nivutā → nivuṭā (cck) | āvuṭā → āvaṭā (pts) | onaddhā → ophutā (pts) | ovuṭā → avutā nivutā ophuṭā (bj: kesuci) | onaddhā → ophuṭā (cck: sī. ka.); ophutā (cck: syā.) | pañca → Bm pañcahi (twice, and so Sum. p. 59). (pts note) | ophutā → Bm twice āvuṭā nivuṭā ophuṭā; Bp twice āvuṭā nivutā opuṭā; SS twice āvaṭā nivutā; Scdm here osatā, below ophutā; St here osaputā, below osaphutā. (Mil. 161 āvaṭo nivuto ovuto. SS at Sum. p. 59 āvutā nivutā oputā). (pts note)The brahmins proficient in the three Vedas are obstructed, hindered, swathed, and enveloped by these five hindrances. Te vata, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā ye dhammā brāhmaṇakārakā te dhamme pahāya vattamānā, ye dhammā abrāhmaṇakārakā te dhamme samādāya vattamānā pañcahi nīvaraṇehi āvuṭā nivutā onaddhā pariyonaddhā kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā brahmānaṁ sahabyūpagā bhavissantīti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇakaraṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | abrāhmaṇakārakā → abrāhmaṇakaraṇā (bj, sya-all, pts) | nivutā onaddhā → nivuṭā ovuṭā (bj); nivuṭā ophutā (sya-all) | paraṁ maraṇā brahmānaṁ sahabyūpagā → parammaraṇā brahmuno sahavyupagā (bj); parammaraṇā brahmasahabyūpagā (sya-all) | nivutā → nivuṭā (cck) | vata → ca (sya-all) | pariyonaddhā → pariyonaddhā te (sya-all) | āvuṭā → āvaṭā (pts) | onaddhā → ophutā (pts) | pariyonaddhā → pariyonaddhā, te (cck: syā. ka.) | pañcahi → pañca (bjt, pts) | brāhmaṇakārakā → brāhmaṇa karaṇā (pts) | paraṁ → param (pts) | sahabyūpagā → sahavyūpagā (pts) | netaṁ → n etaṁ (pts)So long as they are so obstructed it’s impossible that they will, when the body breaks up, after death, be reborn in the company of Divinity.

3. Saṁsandanakathā3. Converging

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? kinti te sutaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ vuddhānaṁ mahallakānaṁ ācariyapācariyānaṁ bhāsamānānaṁ, sapariggaho vā brahmā apariggaho vā”ti?
vuddhānaṁ → vuḍḍhānaṁ (sya-all) | kinti → kiñci (pts) | Kiñci → Sd Bm kin ti. (pts note) | ācariyapācariyānaṁ → ācariya-pācariyānaṁ (pts) | vāti → vā ti (pts)Have you heard that the brahmins who are elderly and senior, the tutors of tutors, say whether the Divinity is encumbered with possessions or not?”

“Apariggaho, bho gotama”.“That he is not, worthy Gotama.”

“Saveracitto vā averacitto vā”ti?
vāti → vā ti (bjt)“Is his heart full of enmity or not?”

“Averacitto, bho gotama”.
averacitto → avera-citto (pts)“It is not.”

“Sabyāpajjacitto vā abyāpajjacitto vā”ti?
sabyāpajjacitto → savyāpajjhacitto (bj, sya-all, pts) | abyāpajjacitto → avyāpajjhacitto (bj, sya-all) | sabyāpajjacitto → sabyāpajjhacitto (th) | abyāpajjacitto → abyāpajjhacitto (th)“Is his heart full of ill will or not?”

“Abyāpajjacitto, bho gotama”.
abyāpajjacitto → avyāpajjhacitto (bj, sya-all) | abyāpajjacitto → abyāpajjhacitto (th) | abyāpajjacitto → citto (pts)“It is not.”

“Saṅkiliṭṭhacitto vā asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto vā”ti?
saṅkiliṭṭhacitto → saṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, ms2005) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, ms2005) | vāti → vā ti (bjt)“Is his heart corrupted or not?”

“Asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto, bho gotama”.
asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, ms2005) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → citto (pts)“It is not.”

“Vasavattī vā avasavattī vā”ti?
vasavattī → vasavatti (sya-all) | avasavattī → avasavatti (sya-all) | Vasavattī → Sm Bm vasavatti (six times). (pts note) | vāti → vā ti (bjt, pts)“Does he wield power or not?”

“Vasavattī, bho gotama”.
vasavattī → vasavatti (sya-all)“He does.”

“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? sapariggahā vā tevijjā brāhmaṇā apariggahā vā”ti?
vāti → vā ti (bjt, pts)Are the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas encumbered with possessions or not?”

“Sapariggahā, bho gotama”.“They are.”

“Saveracittā vā averacittā vā”ti?
vāti → vā ti (bjt)“Are their hearts full of enmity or not?”

“Saveracittā, bho gotama”.
saveracittā → savera-cittā (pts)“They are.”

“Sabyāpajjacittā vā abyāpajjacittā vā”ti?
sabyāpajjacittā → savyāpajjhacittā (bj, sya-all, pts) | abyāpajjacittā → avyāpajjhacittā (bj, sya-all) | sabyāpajjacittā → sabyāpajjhacittā (th) | abyāpajjacittā → abyāpajjhacittā (th)“Are their hearts full of ill will or not?”

“Sabyāpajjacittā, bho gotama”.
sabyāpajjacittā → savyāpajjhacittā (bj, sya-all) | sabyāpajjacittā → sabyāpajjhacittā (th) | sabyāpajjacittā → cittā (pts)“They are.”

“Saṅkiliṭṭhacittā vā asaṅkiliṭṭhacittā vā”ti?
saṅkiliṭṭhacittā → saṁkiliṭṭhacittā (my, ms2005) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacittā → asaṁkiliṭṭhacittā (my, ms2005) | vāti → vā ti (bjt)“Are their hearts corrupted or not?”

“Saṅkiliṭṭhacittā, bho gotama”.
saṅkiliṭṭhacittā → saṁkiliṭṭhacittā (my, ms2005) | saṅkiliṭṭhacittā → cittā (pts)“They are.”

“Vasavattī vā avasavattī vā”ti?
vāti → vā ti (bjt, pts)“Do they wield power or not?”

“Avasavattī, bho gotama”.“They do not.”

“Iti kira, vāseṭṭha, sapariggahā tevijjā brāhmaṇā apariggaho brahmā.
kira → kira te (sya-all) | vāseṭṭha → vaseṭṭha (pts) | brāhmaṇā → brahmaṇā (pts)“So it seems that the brahmins proficient in the three Vedas are encumbered with possessions, but the Divinity is not. Api nu kho sapariggahānaṁ tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ apariggahena brahmunā saddhiṁ saṁsandati sametī”ti?
sametīti → sametī ti (bjt) | brahmunā → brāhmunā (pts)But would brahmins who are encumbered with possessions join together and converge with the Divinity, who isn’t encumbered with possessions?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → hetaṁ (sya-all) | hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, te vata, vāseṭṭha, sapariggahā tevijjā brāhmaṇā kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apariggahassa brahmuno sahabyūpagā bhavissantīti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
vata → ca (sya-all) | vijjati → vijjatīti (pts) | paraṁ maraṇā → parammaraṇā (bjt, th) | sahabyūpagā → sahavyūpagā (bjt, pts) | paraṁ → param (pts) | netaṁ → n etaṁ (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha! It’s impossible that the brahmins who are encumbered with possessions will, when the body breaks up, after death, be reborn in the company of Divinity, who isn’t encumbered with possessions.

Iti kira, vāseṭṭha, saveracittā tevijjā brāhmaṇā, averacitto brahmā …pe…
kira → kira te (sya-all) | pe → spelled out in full (bjt) | saveracittā → savera-cittā (pts) | averacitto → avera-citto (pts)And it seems that the brahmins have enmity, sabyāpajjacittā tevijjā brāhmaṇā abyāpajjacitto brahmā …
abyāpajjacitto → abyāpajjhacitto (sya-all, pts) | sabyāpajjacittā → savyāpajjhacittā (pts) | sabyāpajjacittā → savyāpajjha-cittā (pts) | abyāpajjacitto → avyāpajjha-citto (pts)ill will, saṅkiliṭṭhacittā tevijjā brāhmaṇā asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto brahmā …
saṅkiliṭṭhacittā → saṁkiliṭṭhacittā (my, ms2005) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, bjt, ms2005) | pe → spelled out in full (bjt) | saṅkiliṭṭhacittā → saṁkiliṭṭha-cittā (pts) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭha-citto (pts)corruption, avasavattī tevijjā brāhmaṇā vasavattī brahmā, api nu kho avasavattīnaṁ tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ vasavattinā brahmunā saddhiṁ saṁsandati sametī”ti?
vasavattī → vasavatti (sya-all) | sametīti → sametī ti (bjt)and do not wield power, while the Divinity has no enmity, ill will, or corruption, and who does wield power. But would brahmins who are opposite to the Divinity in all these things join together and converge with him?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → hetaṁ (sya-all) | hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, te vata, vāseṭṭha, avasavattī tevijjā brāhmaṇā kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā vasavattissa brahmuno sahabyūpagā bhavissantīti, netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.
vata → ca (sya-all) | vasavattissa → SS Vasavatti- (as Bm at xi. 79). (pts note) | paraṁ maraṇā → parammaraṇā (bjt, th) | sahabyūpagā → sahavyūpagā (bjt, pts) | paraṁ → param (pts) | netaṁ → n etaṁ (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha! It’s impossible that brahmins who are opposite to the Divinity in all these things will, when the body breaks up, after death, be reborn in the company of Divinity.

Idha kho pana te, vāseṭṭha, tevijjā brāhmaṇā āsīditvā saṁsīdanti, saṁsīditvā visāraṁ pāpuṇanti, sukkhataraṁ maññe taranti.
āsīditvā → ādisitvā (mr) | visāraṁ → visādaṁ (bj, pts1ed); visattaṁ (sya-all) | sukkhataraṁ → sukkhataraṇaṁ (bj, mr); sukhataraṁ (sya-all) | visāraṁ → visādaṁ vā (bj); visādaṁ va (pts) | taranti → pataranti (bj, pts) | te → (pts) | sukkhataraṇaṁ → sukkhataraṁ (bj: kesuci) | āsīditvā → ādisitvā (cck: ka.) | visāraṁ → visādaṁ (cck: sī. pī.); visattaṁ (cck: syā.) | sukkhataraṁ → sukkhataraṇaṁ (cck: ka.) | pana → Bm adds te. (pts note) | āsīditvā → BB ādisitvā. (pts note) | saṁsīditvā → SS sasīdanti sasīditvā. (pts note) | pāpuṇanti → Bm visāraṁ pāpuṇanti; Bp visattaṁ vā pāpuṇanti. (pts note) | sukkhataraṁ → sukha taraṁ (pts)Now in this regard, Vāseṭṭha, those brahmins proficient in the three Vedas, having dived in, sink down. Having sunk down, they undergo drowning, imagining they are crossing to the dry shore. Tasmā idaṁ tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ tevijjāiriṇantipi vuccati, tevijjāvivanantipi vuccati, tevijjābyasanantipi vuccatī”ti.
tevijjāiriṇantipi → tevijjaṁ iraṇantipi (bj); tevijjāīriṇan ti pi (pts) | tevijjāvivanantipi → tevijjaṁ vipinantipi (bj); tevijjāvipinan ti pi (pts) | tevijjābyasanantipi → tevijjaṁ vyasanantipi (bj) | tevijjaṁ → tevijjā (bj: bahūsu) | iraṇanti’pi → īraṇaṁ (bj: ṭīkā) | vuccatīti → All seven MSS. tevijjā-, and vuccanti, three times; SS itinan; Bm irinan; Bp iriṇaṁ; Sc vijinan; Bm vivadan; Bp vivanaṁ. (pts note) | tevijjāiriṇantipi → tevijjā-īriṇan ti pi (pts) | tevijjāvivanantipi → tevijjā-vipinan ti pi (pts) | tevijjābyasanantipi → tevijjā-vyasanan ti pi (pts)That’s why the three Vedas of the brahmins are called a ‘salted land’ and a ‘barren land’ and a ‘disaster’.”

Evaṁ vutte, vāseṭṭho māṇavo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:
bhagavantaṁ etadavoca → bhagavantam etad avoca (pts)When he said this, Vāseṭṭha said to the Buddha, “sutaṁ metaṁ, bho gotama, samaṇo gotamo brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya maggaṁ jānātī”ti.
brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya → brahmuno sahavyatāya (bj) | etaṁ → Bm sutam etaṁ (and so in 39). Bp = SS. (pts note) | metaṁ → me taṁ (bjt) | metaṁ → m etaṁ (pts)“I have heard, worthy Gotama, that you know the path to company with Divinity.”

“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha.
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? Āsanne ito manasākaṭaṁ, na ito dūre manasākaṭan”ti?
na ito → nayito (bj) | manasākaṭaṁ → manasākataṁ (sya-all) | manasākaṭanti → manasākatanti (sya-all) | ito → yito (pts) | yito → BB na ito twice. (pts note) | manasākaṭanti → manasākaṭan ti (pts)Is the village of Manasākaṭa nearby?”

“Evaṁ, bho gotama, āsanne ito manasākaṭaṁ, na ito dūre manasākaṭan”ti.
na ito → nayito (bj) | manasākaṭaṁ → manasākataṁ (sya-all) | manasākaṭanti → manasākatanti (sya-all) | ito → yito (pts) | manasākaṭanti → manasākaṭan ti (pts)“Yes it is.”

“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ maññasi → kimmaññasi (bjt) | kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? idhassa puriso manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddho.
jātasaṁvaddho → jātavaddho (bj) | manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddho → manasākate jātasaṁvaḍḍho (sya-all) | jātasaṁvaddho tamenaṁ → jāto vaddho tam enaṁ (pts) | vaddho → Bm jāta-saṁvaddho; Bp jāta-saṁvaṭeddho. (pts note) | idhassa → idh assa (pts)Suppose a person was born and raised in Manasākaṭa. Tamenaṁ manasākaṭato tāvadeva avasaṭaṁ manasākaṭassa maggaṁ puccheyyuṁ.
manasākaṭato → manasākatā (sya-all) | avasaṭaṁ manasākaṭassa → avasataṁ manasākatassa (sya-all) | puccheyyuṁ → puccheyyaṁ (sya-all) | avassaṭaṁ → SS avassaṁ. (pts note) | puccheyyuṁ → Scm puccheyya; St puccheyyā. (pts note) | tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts) | tāvadeva avasaṭaṁ → tāvad eva avassaṭaṁ (pts)And as soon as they left the town some people asked them for the road to Manasākaṭa. Siyā nu kho, vāseṭṭha, tassa purisassa manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddhassa manasākaṭassa maggaṁ puṭṭhassa dandhāyitattaṁ vā vitthāyitattaṁ vā”ti?
jātasaṁvaddhassa → jātavaddhassa (bj, pts) | manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddhassa manasākaṭassa → manasākate jātasaṁvaḍḍhassa manasākatassa (sya-all) | jāta-vaddhassa → BB jāta-saṁvaddhassa. (pts note) | vitthāyitattaṁ vāti → vitthāyitattaṁvā ti (bjt) | vāti → vā ti (pts)Would they be slow or hesitant to answer?”

“No hidaṁ, bho gotama”.
hidaṁ → h idaṁ (pts)“No, worthy Gotama. “Taṁ kissa hetu”?Why is that? “Amu hi, bho gotama, puriso manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddho, tassa sabbāneva manasākaṭassa maggāni suviditānī”ti.
amu → asu (bj, pts); asuko (sya-all) | jātasaṁvaddho → jātavaddho (bj); jāto vaddho (pts) | manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddho → manasākate jātasaṁvaḍḍho (sya-all) | manasākaṭassa → manasākatassa (sya-all) | vaddho → Bm jāta-saṁvaddho; Bp jāvata-saṁvaddho. (pts note) | sabbāneva → sabbān eva (pts)Because they were born and raised in Manasākaṭa. They’re well acquainted with all the roads to the village.”

“Siyā kho, vāseṭṭha, tassa purisassa manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddhassa manasākaṭassa maggaṁ puṭṭhassa dandhāyitattaṁ vā vitthāyitattaṁ vā, na tveva tathāgatassa brahmaloke vā brahmalokagāminiyā vā paṭipadāya puṭṭhassa dandhāyitattaṁ vā vitthāyitattaṁ vā.
jātasaṁvaddhassa → jātavaddhassa (bj, pts) | na tveva → nattheva (bj) | manasākaṭe jātasaṁvaddhassa manasākaṭassa → manasākate jātasaṁvaḍḍhassa manasākatassa (sya-all) | na → no (pts) | jāta-vaddhassa → BB saṁvaddhassa. (pts note) | brahmaloke → brahma-loke (pts) | brahmalokagāminiyā → brahmaloka-gāminiyā (pts)“Still, it’s possible they might be slow or hesitant to answer. But the Realized One is never slow or hesitant when questioned about the realm of divinity or the practice that leads to the realm of divinity. Brahmānañcāhaṁ, vāseṭṭha, pajānāmi brahmalokañca brahmalokagāminiñca paṭipadaṁ, yathā paṭipanno ca brahmalokaṁ upapanno, tañca pajānāmī”ti.
ca → (bj); ca brahmā (sya-all) | ahaṁ → BB Brahmānañ cāhaṁ'. (pts note) | uppanno → Bm paṭipanno . . . upapanno. (pts note) | brahmānañcāhaṁ → brahmānaṁ cāhaṁ (my) | tañca pajānāmīti → tañcapajānāmīti (bjt) | yathā paṭipanno → yathāpaṭipanno (th) | brahmānañcāhaṁ → brahmānaṁ p ahaṁ (pts) | brahmalokañca brahmalokagāminiñca → brahma-lokañ ca brahmalokagāminiñ ca (pts) | brahmalokaṁ upapanno tañca → brahma-lokaṁ uppanno tañ ca (pts)I understand the Divinity, the realm of divinity, and the practice that leads to the realm of divinity, practicing in accordance with which one is reborn in the realm of divinity.”

Evaṁ vutte, vāseṭṭho māṇavo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:
etadavoca → etad avoca (pts)When he said this, Vāseṭṭha said to the Buddha, “sutaṁ metaṁ, bho gotama, samaṇo gotamo brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya maggaṁ desetī”ti.
brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya → brahmuno sahavyatāya (bj) | metaṁ → m etaṁ (pts)“I have heard, worthy Gotama, that you teach the path to company with Divinity. “Sādhu no bhavaṁ gotamo brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya maggaṁ desetu ullumpatu bhavaṁ gotamo brāhmaṇiṁ pajan”ti.
brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya → brahmuno sahavyatāya (bj) | pajanti → pajan ti (pts)Please teach us that path and elevate this generation of brahmins.”

“Tena hi, vāseṭṭha, suṇāhi; sādhukaṁ manasi karohi; bhāsissāmī”ti.
manasi karohi → manasikarohi (bjt, th, pts) | tena hi → tenahi (th)“Well then, Vāseṭṭha, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.”

“Evaṁ, bho”ti kho vāseṭṭho māṇavo bhagavato paccassosi.
evaṁ bhoti → evam bho ti (pts)“Yes, worthy sir,” replied Vāseṭṭha.

4. Brahmalokamaggadesanā4. Teaching the Path to the Divinity

Bhagavā etadavoca:
etadavoca → etad avoca (pts)The Buddha said this:

“idha, vāseṭṭha, tathāgato loke uppajjati arahaṁ, sammāsambuddho …pe…
rajāpatho → rajopatho (bj: katthaci) | ārācārī → anācārī (bj: machasaṁ) | theto → ṭheto (bj: syā) | pemanīyā → pemaniyā (bj: machasaṁ) | tathārūpiṁ → evarūpiṁ (bj: katthaci) | sammā-sambuddho → BB || pa || Yathā Sāmañña-phalaṁ evaṁ vitthāretabbaṁ || pa || evaṁ kho Vāseṭha bhikkhu sīla-sampanno hoti || pa || Tass'; ime pañca nīvaraṇe pahīne attani samanupassato pāmujjaṁ jāyati, pamuditassa piti (sic) jāyati, pitimanassa kāyo passambhati, passaddha-kāyo sukhaṁ ve deti, sukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati. So mettā, etc. ( 76). (pts note) | Na → So Sdm; BB Sct omit (D. ii. 41 na idaṁ). (pts note) | So → Omitted at D. ii. 42. (pts note) | + → yathā anucchedesu evaṁ vitthāretabbaṁ (my) | pe → spelled out in full (bjt)“It’s when a Realized One arises in the world, perfected, a fully awakened Buddha … Evaṁ kho, vāseṭṭha, bhikkhu sīlasampanno hoti …pe…
pe → D. ii. 43-75, all of which SS give in full. (pts note) | pe → spelled out in full (bjt)That’s how a mendicant is accomplished in ethics. … tassime pañca nīvaraṇe pahīne attani samanupassato pāmojjaṁ jāyati, pamuditassa pīti jāyati, pītimanassa kāyo passambhati, passaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedeti, sukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.
pahīne → pahīṇe (bj) | pe → Bm omits. SS must mean D. ii. 75-98. (pts note)Seeing that the hindrances have been given up in them, joy springs up. Being joyful, rapture springs up. When the mind is full of rapture, the body becomes tranquil. When the body is tranquil, they feel bliss. And when blissful, the mind becomes immersed.

So mettāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati. Tathā dutiyaṁ. Tathā tatiyaṁ. Tathā catutthaṁ. Iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ mettāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.
catutthaṁ → catutthiṁ (bj) | abyāpajjena → avyāpajjhena (bj, sya-all, pts) | sabbattatāya → sabbatthatāya (bj: kesuci) | So → SS omit. (pts note) | abyāpajjena → abyāpajjhena (th) | mettāsahagatena → mettā-sahagatena (pts) | uddhamadho → uddham adho (pts)They meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, balavā saṅkhadhamo appakasireneva catuddisā viññāpeyya;
catuddisā → cātuddisaṁ sarena (bj) | saṅkha-dhamo → Scmt Bp dhammo. (pts note) | seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts) | saṅkhadhamo appakasireneva → saṅkha-dhamo appakasiren eva (pts)Suppose there was a powerful horn blower. They’d easily make themselves heard in the four quarters. evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, evaṁ bhāvitāya mettāya cetovimuttiyā yaṁ pamāṇakataṁ kammaṁ na taṁ tatrāvasissati, na taṁ tatrāvatiṭṭhati.
evameva → evaṁ bhāvitāya (pts) | evaṁ bhāvitāya → (pts) | Vāseṭṭha → -2 BB evam eva kho Vāseṭṭha evaṁ bhāvitāya (and in 79). (pts note) | yaṁ → Sc omits; Sdt ya; Sm ya erased (in 79 Sc omits; Sdmt yaṁ). (pts note) | evaṁ bhāvitāya → evaṁbhāvitāya (th) | cetovimuttiyā → ceto-vimuttiyā (pts) | pamāṇakataṁ → pamāṇa-kataṁ (pts)In the same way, when the heart’s release by love has been developed like this, any limited deeds they’ve done don’t remain or persist there. Ayampi kho, vāseṭṭha, brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya maggo.
brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya → brahmuno sahavyatāya (bj) | brahmuno → brahmānaṁ (bj: PTS) | ayampi → ayaṁpi (th) | ayampi → ayam pi (pts)This is a path to company with Divinity.

Puna caparaṁ, vāseṭṭha, bhikkhu karuṇāsahagatena cetasā …pe…
pe → spelled out in full (bjt) | caparaṁ → ca paraṁ (pts) | karuṇāsahagatena → karuṇā-sahagatena (pts)Furthermore, a mendicant meditates spreading a heart full of compassion …

muditāsahagatena cetasā …pe…
pe → spelled out in full (bjt) | muditāsahagatena → muditā-sahagatena (pts)They meditate spreading a heart full of rejoicing …

upekkhāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati. Tathā dutiyaṁ. Tathā tatiyaṁ. Tathā catutthaṁ. Iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ upekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.
catutthaṁ → catutthiṁ (bj) | abyāpajjena → avyāpajjhena (bj, sya-all, pts) | abyāpajjena → abyāpajjhena (th) | upekkhāsahagatena → upekhā-sahagatena (pts) | uddhamadho → uddham adho (pts)They meditate spreading a heart full of equanimity to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of equanimity to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.

Seyyathāpi, vāseṭṭha, balavā saṅkhadhamo appakasireneva catuddisā viññāpeyya;
catuddisā → cātuddisaṁ sarena (bj) | seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts) | saṅkhadhamo appakasireneva → saṅkha-dhamo appakasiren eva (pts)Suppose there was a powerful horn blower. They’d easily make themselves heard in the four quarters. evameva kho, vāseṭṭha, evaṁ bhāvitāya upekkhāya cetovimuttiyā yaṁ pamāṇakataṁ kammaṁ na taṁ tatrāvasissati, na taṁ tatrāvatiṭṭhati.
evameva → evaṁ bhāvitāya (pts) | evaṁ bhāvitāya upekkhāya → upekhāya (pts) | evaṁ bhāvitāya upekkhāya cetovimuttiyā → upekhāya ceto-vimuttiyā (pts) | pamāṇakataṁ → pamāṇa-kataṁ (pts)In the same way, when the heart’s release by equanimity has been developed and cultivated like this, any limited deeds they’ve done don’t remain or persist there. Ayampi kho, vāseṭṭha, brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya maggo.
brahmānaṁ sahabyatāya → brahmuno sahavyatāya (bj) | ayampi → ayaṁ (cck, sya-all) | ayampi → ayam pi (pts)This too is a path to company with Divinity.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, vāseṭṭha,
kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? evaṁvihārī bhikkhu sapariggaho vā apariggaho vā”ti?
vāti → vā ti (bjt, pts) | evaṁvihārī → evaṁ-vihārī (pts)When a mendicant meditates like this, are they encumbered with possessions or not?”

“Apariggaho, bho gotama”.“They are not.”

“Saveracitto vā averacitto vā”ti?
vāti → vā ti (bjt)“Is their heart full of enmity or not?”

“Averacitto, bho gotama”.
averacitto → avera-citto (pts)“It is not.”

“Sabyāpajjacitto vā abyāpajjacitto vā”ti?
sabyāpajjacitto → sabyāpajjha citto (bj, sya-all, pts) | abyāpajjacitto → abyāpajjhacitto (bj, sya-all) | sabyāpajjacitto → sabyāpajjhacitto (th)“Is their heart full of ill will or not?”

“Abyāpajjacitto, bho gotama”.
abyāpajjacitto → abyāpajjhacitto (bj, sya-all) | abyāpajjacitto → citto (pts)“It is not.”

“Saṅkiliṭṭhacitto vā asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto vā”ti?
saṅkiliṭṭhacitto → saṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, ms2005) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, ms2005)“Is their heart corrupted or not?”

“Asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto, bho gotama”.
asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, bjt, ms2005) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → citto (pts)“It is not.”

“Vasavattī vā avasavattī vā”ti?
vasavattī → vasavatti (sya-all) | avasavattī → avasavatti (sya-all) | vāti → vā ti (bjt, pts)“Do they wield power or not?”

“Vasavattī, bho gotama”.
vasavattī → vasavatti (sya-all)“They do.”

“Iti kira, vāseṭṭha, apariggaho bhikkhu, apariggaho brahmā.“So it seems that that mendicant is not encumbered with possessions, and neither is the Divinity. Api nu kho apariggahassa bhikkhuno apariggahena brahmunā saddhiṁ saṁsandati sametī”ti?
sametīti → sametī ti (bjt)Would a mendicant who is not encumbered with possessions join together and converge with the Divinity, who isn’t encumbered with possessions?”

“Evaṁ, bho gotama”.“Yes, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, so vata vāseṭṭha apariggaho bhikkhu kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apariggahassa brahmuno sahabyūpago bhavissatīti, ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.
vata → ca (sya-all) | paraṁ maraṇā → parammaraṇā (bjt, th) | sahabyūpago → sahavyūpago (bjt, pts) | paraṁ → param (pts) | ṭhānametaṁ → ṭhānam etaṁ (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha! It’s quite possible that a mendicant who is not encumbered with possessions will, when the body breaks up, after death, be reborn in the company of Divinity, who isn’t encumbered with possessions.

Iti kira, vāseṭṭha, averacitto bhikkhu, averacitto brahmā …pe…
pe → spelled out in full (bjt) | averacitto → avera-citto (pts)And it seems that that mendicant has no enmity, abyāpajjacitto bhikkhu, abyāpajjacitto brahmā …
abyāpajjacitto → abyāpajjhacitto (sya-all, pts) | abyāpajjacitto → avyāpajjha-citto (pts)ill will, asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto bhikkhu, asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto brahmā …
asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭhacitto (my, bjt, ms2005) | pe → spelled out in full (bjt) | asaṅkiliṭṭhacitto → asaṁkiliṭṭha-citto (pts)corruption, vasavattī bhikkhu, vasavattī brahmā, api nu kho vasavattissa bhikkhuno vasavattinā brahmunā saddhiṁ saṁsandati sametī”ti?
vasavattī → vasavatti (sya-all) | sametīti → sametī ti (bjt)and does wield power, while the Divinity is the same in all these things. Would a mendicant who is the same as the Divinity in all things join together and converge with him?”

“Evaṁ, bho gotama”.“Yes, worthy Gotama.”

“Sādhu, vāseṭṭha, so vata, vāseṭṭha, vasavattī bhikkhu kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā vasavattissa brahmuno sahabyūpago bhavissatīti, ṭhānametaṁ vijjatī”ti.
vata → ca (sya-all) | vasavattī → vasavatti (sya-all) | paraṁ maraṇā → parammaraṇā (bjt, th) | sahabyūpago → sahavyūpago (bjt, pts) | paraṁ → param (pts) | ṭhānametaṁ → ṭhānam etaṁ (pts)“Good, Vāseṭṭha! It’s quite possible that that mendicant will, when the body breaks up, after death, be reborn in the company of Divinity.”

Evaṁ vutte, vāseṭṭhabhāradvājā māṇavā bhagavantaṁ etadavocuṁ:
vutte → vuttaṁ (sya-all) | avocuṁ → SS Vāseṭṭho Bhāradvājo māṇavo; Bp etad avoca. (pts note) | vāseṭṭhabhāradvājā → vāseṭṭha-bhāradvājā (pts) | etadavocuṁ → etad avocuṁ (pts)When he had spoken, Vāseṭṭha and Bhāradvāja said to him, “abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama, abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama.“Excellent, worthy Gotama! Excellent! Seyyathāpi, bho gotama, nikkujjitaṁ vā ukkujjeyya, paṭicchannaṁ vā vivareyya, mūḷhassa vā maggaṁ ācikkheyya, andhakāre vā telapajjotaṁ dhāreyya: ‘cakkhumanto rūpāni dakkhantī’ti; evamevaṁ bhotā gotamena anekapariyāyena dhammo pakāsito.
evamevaṁ → evameva kho (sya-all) | dakkhantīti evamevaṁ → dakkhintīti evam eva (pts) | bhotā → Scdm bho. (pts note) | telapajjotaṁ → telappajjotaṁ (th) | seyyathāpi → seyyathā pi (pts) | andhakāre → andha-kāre (pts) | telapajjotaṁ → tela-pajjotaṁ (pts)As if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, worthy Gotama has made the teaching clear in many ways. Ete mayaṁ bhavantaṁ gotamaṁ saraṇaṁ gacchāma, dhammañca bhikkhusaṅghañca.
bhavantaṁ → Scd bhagavantaṁ; St bhavaṁ. (pts note) | gacchāma → Scm gacchāmi. (pts note) | bhikkhusaṅghañca → bhikkhusaṁghañca (ms2005) | dhammañca bhikkhusaṅghañca → dhammañ ca bhikkhusaṁghañ ca (pts)We go for refuge to the worthy Gotama, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha. Upāsake no bhavaṁ gotamo dhāretu ajjatagge pāṇupete saraṇaṁ gate”ti.
pāṇupete → pāṇupetam (pts) | Upāsake → Scdm upāsakaṁ. (pts note) | pāṇupetam → Bm pāṇupete. (pts note) | saraṇaṁ → Sdt saraṇā-. (pts note) | gate → Scm gato. (pts note) | saraṇaṁ gateti → saraṇaṁgateti (bjt) | saraṇaṁ gateti → saraṇaṅgateti (th) | gateti → gate ti brahma sāmañña-ambaṭṭha-soṇa kuṭa-mahā-jālā (pts)From this day forth, may the worthy Gotama remember us as lay followers who have gone for refuge for life.”

Tevijjasuttaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ terasamaṁ.

Sīlakkhandhavaggo niṭṭhito.
+ → paṭhamo (bjt)

Tassuddānaṁ

Brahmāsāmaññaambaṭṭha, soṇakūṭamahālijālinī;
brahmāsāmaññaambaṭṭha → brahmā sāmaññaambaṭṭha (th) | brahmāsāmaññaambaṭṭha → sīha (pts) soṇakūṭamahālijālinī → soṇakūṭa mahāli jālinī (th) | soṇakūṭamahālijālinī → poṭṭha (pts) Sīhapoṭṭhapādasubho kevaṭṭo, lohiccatevijjā terasāti.
sīhapoṭṭhapādasubho kevaṭṭo → subha-kevaddha (pts) lohiccatevijjā → lohicca tevijjā (th) | lohiccatevijjā terasāti → lohicca-tevijja-terasā-ti (pts)

Sīlakkhandhavaggapāḷi niṭṭhitā.
sīlakkhandhavaggapāḷi niṭṭhitā → sīlakkhandhavaggo niṭṭhito (th)