CūḷasakuludāyisuttaThe Shorter Discourse With Sakuludāyī
Evaṁ me sutaṁ—
evaṁ me → evamme (th) | evaṁ → evam (pts)So I have heard.
ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā rājagahe viharati veḷuvane kalandakanivāpe.At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground.
Tena kho pana samayena sakuludāyī paribbājako moranivāpe paribbājakārāme paṭivasati mahatiyā paribbājakaparisāya saddhiṁ.
sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (sya-all, pts)Now at that time the wanderer Sakuludāyī was residing together with a large assembly of wanderers in their monastery in the peacocks’ feeding ground.
Atha kho bhagavā pubbaṇhasamayaṁ nivāsetvā pattacīvaramādāya rājagahaṁ piṇḍāya pāvisi.
pattacīvaramādāya → pattacīvaramādāya yena (sya-all) | rājagahaṁ → rājagahaṁ tena (sya-all) | Rājagahaṁ → Si inserts yena before Rājagahaṁ & tena after it. (pts note) | pattacīvaramādāya → pattacīvaraṁ ādāya (pts)Then the Buddha robed up in the morning and, taking his bowl and robe, entered Rājagaha for alms.
Atha kho bhagavato etadahosi:
etadahosi → etad ahosi (pts)Then it occurred to him,
“atippago kho tāva rājagahe piṇḍāya carituṁ.
rājagahe → rājagahaṁ (bj) | rājagahe piṇḍāya → rājagahaṁ piṇḍaya (pts)“It’s too early to wander for alms in Rājagaha.
Yannūnāhaṁ yena moranivāpo paribbājakārāmo yena sakuludāyī paribbājako tenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.
sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (sya-all, pts) | yannūnāhaṁ → yaṁnūnāhaṁ (my) | tenupasaṅkameyyanti → ten upasaṁkameyyan ti (pts)Why don’t I visit the wanderer Sakuludāyī at the monastery for the wanderers in the peacocks’ feeding ground?”
Atha kho bhagavā yena moranivāpo paribbājakārāmo tenupasaṅkami.
tenupasaṅkami → ten upasaṁkami (pts)Then the Buddha went to the monastery for the wanderers.
Tena kho pana samayena sakuludāyī paribbājako mahatiyā paribbājakaparisāya saddhiṁ nisinno hoti unnādiniyā uccāsaddamahāsaddāya anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ kathentiyā, seyyathidaṁ—
sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (pts) | uccāsaddamahāsaddāya → uccāsaddāya mahāsaddāya (pts) | uccāsaddamahāsaddāya → uccāsaddāya mahāsaddāya (bj: sīmu8, PTS) | seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th, pts)Now at that time, Sakuludāyī was sitting together with a large assembly of wanderers making an uproar, a colossal racket. They engaged in all kinds of low talk, such as
rājakathaṁ corakathaṁ mahāmattakathaṁ senākathaṁ bhayakathaṁ yuddhakathaṁ annakathaṁ pānakathaṁ vatthakathaṁ sayanakathaṁ mālākathaṁ gandhakathaṁ ñātikathaṁ yānakathaṁ gāmakathaṁ nigamakathaṁ nagarakathaṁ janapadakathaṁ itthikathaṁ sūrakathaṁ visikhākathaṁ kumbhaṭṭhānakathaṁ pubbapetakathaṁ nānattakathaṁ lokakkhāyikaṁ samuddakkhāyikaṁ itibhavābhavakathaṁ iti vā.
itthikathaṁ → itthikathaṁ purisakathaṁ (bj) | Rājakathaṁ → Si here inserts pe & omits sentence to iti vā. (pts note) | + → yānakathaṁ (bjt)talk about kings, bandits, and chief ministers; talk about armies, threats, and wars; talk about food, drink, clothes, and beds; talk about garlands and fragrances; talk about family, vehicles, villages, towns, cities, and countries; talk about women and heroes; talk at the street market and the place for water pots; talk about the departed; motley talk; tales of land and sea; and talk about being reborn in this or that place.
Addasā kho sakuludāyī paribbājako bhagavantaṁ dūratova āgacchantaṁ.
sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (sya-all) | dūratova → dūrato va (pts)Sakuludāyī saw the Buddha coming off in the distance,
Disvāna sakaṁ parisaṁ saṇṭhāpesi:
saṇṭhāpesi → saṇṭhapesi (bj, sya-all)and hushed his own assembly,
“appasaddā bhonto hontu, mā bhonto saddamakattha.
mā → ma (pts) | saddamakattha → saddam akattha (pts)“Be quiet, good fellows, don’t make a sound.
Ayaṁ samaṇo gotamo āgacchati;Here comes the ascetic Gotama.
appasaddakāmo kho pana so āyasmā appasaddassa vaṇṇavādī.The venerable likes quiet and praises quiet.
Appeva nāma appasaddaṁ parisaṁ viditvā upasaṅkamitabbaṁ maññeyyā”ti.
appeva nāma → appevanāma (bjt, th) | appeva → app eva (pts) | upasaṅkamitabbaṁ → upasaṁkamitabbaṁ (pts)Hopefully if he sees that our assembly is quiet he’ll see fit to approach.”
Atha kho te paribbājakā tuṇhī ahesuṁ.Then those wanderers fell silent.
Atha kho bhagavā yena sakuludāyī paribbājako tenupasaṅkami.
sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (sya-all, pts) | tenupasaṅkami → ten upasaṁkami (pts)Then the Buddha approached Sakuludāyī,
Atha kho sakuludāyī paribbājako bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:
taṁ → taṁ no (bj, km, pts1ed); tanno (sya-all) | sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (sya-all, pts) | etadavoca → etad avoca (pts)who said to him,
“etu kho, bhante, bhagavā.“Let the Blessed One come, sir!
Svāgataṁ, bhante, bhagavato.
svāgataṁ → sāgataṁ (pts)Welcome to the Blessed One, sir!
Cirassaṁ kho, bhante, bhagavā imaṁ pariyāyamakāsi yadidaṁ idhāgamanāya.
pariyāyamakāsi → pariyāyam akāsi (pts) | idhāgamanāya → idh āgamanāya (pts)It’s been a long time since you took the opportunity to come here.
Nisīdatu, bhante, bhagavā;Please, sir, sit down, this seat is ready.”
idamāsanaṁ paññattan”ti.
idamāsanaṁ paññattanti → idam āsanaṁ paññattan ti (pts)
Nisīdi bhagavā paññatte āsane.The Buddha sat down on the seat spread out,
Sakuludāyīpi kho paribbājako aññataraṁ nīcaṁ āsanaṁ gahetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi.
sakuludāyīpi → sakuludāyipi (sya-all, pts) | sakuludāyīpi → sakuludāyi pi (pts)while Sakuludāyī took a low seat and sat to one side.
Ekamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho sakuludāyiṁ paribbājakaṁ bhagavā etadavoca:
etadavoca → etad avoca (pts)The Buddha said to him,
“kāya nuttha, udāyi, etarahi kathāya sannisinnā, kā ca pana vo antarākathā vippakatā”ti?
kāya nuttha → kāyanuttha (bjt) | antarākathā → antarā kathā (bjt) | nuttha → nu ttha (pts) | vippakatāti → vippakatā ti (pts)“Udāyī, what were you sitting talking about just now? What conversation was left unfinished?”
“Tiṭṭhatesā, bhante, kathā yāya mayaṁ etarahi kathāya sannisinnā.
tiṭṭhatesā → tiṭṭhat esā (pts)“Sir, leave aside what we were sitting talking about just now.
Nesā, bhante, kathā bhagavato dullabhā bhavissati pacchāpi savanāya.
savanāya → savaṇāya (bj) | dullabhā → dullabbā (pts) | nesā → n esā (pts)It won’t be hard for you to hear about that later.
Yadāhaṁ, bhante, imaṁ parisaṁ anupasaṅkanto homi athāyaṁ parisā anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ kathentī nisinnā hoti;
anupasaṅkanto → anupasaṁkanto (pts)When I don’t come to the assembly, they sit and engage in all kinds of low talk.
yadā ca kho ahaṁ, bhante, imaṁ parisaṁ upasaṅkanto homi athāyaṁ parisā mamaññeva mukhaṁ ullokentī nisinnā hoti:
ullokentī → olokentī (sya-all) | ullokentī → olokentī (bj: syā) | ullokentī → So Skt Bm; Si olokentī. (pts note) | mamaññeva → mamaṁyeva (bjt, th) | upasaṅkanto → upasaṁkanto (pts) | mamaññeva → mamaṁ yeva (pts)But when I have come to the assembly, they sit gazing up at my face alone, thinking,
‘yaṁ no samaṇo udāyī dhammaṁ bhāsissati taṁ sossāmā’ti;
taṁ → taṁ no (bj, sya-all, pts) | udāyī → gotamo udāyi (sya-all); udāyi (pts) | taṁ → taṁ no (cck: sī. syā. kaṁ. pī.) | yaṁ no → yanno (th) | taṁ → tanno (th)‘Whatever the ascetic Udāyī teaches, we shall listen to it.’
yadā pana, bhante, bhagavā imaṁ parisaṁ upasaṅkanto hoti athāhañceva ayañca parisā bhagavato mukhaṁ ullokentā nisinnā homa:
ullokentā → ullokento (bj); olokentī (sya-all, km, mr) | athāhañceva → atha ahañceva (bj); atha ca ahañceva (sya-all) | bhagavato → bhagavatova (bj, pts) | homa yaṁ no → hoti yanno (sya-all) | bhagavatova → bhagavato (bj: machasaṁ) | ullokento → olokentī (bj: syā) | homa → hoti (bj: syā) | ullokentā → olokentī (cck: syā. kaṁ. ka.) | va → Bm Si omit va. (pts note) | ullokentā → Si olokentī; Bm oloketvā; Sk ulloketo. (pts note) | homa → So Bm; Skt hotima; Si hoti. (pts note) | upasaṅkanto → upasaṁkanto (pts) | athāhañceva ayañca → atha ahañ eva ayañ ca (pts)But when the Buddha has come to the assembly, both myself and the assembly sit gazing up at your face, thinking,
‘yaṁ no bhagavā dhammaṁ bhāsissati taṁ sossāmā’”ti.
taṁ → tanno (sya-all, pts) | yaṁ no → yanno (th) | + → no (pts)‘Whatever the Buddha teaches, we shall listen to it.’”
“Tenahudāyi, taṁyevettha paṭibhātu yathā maṁ paṭibhāseyyā”ti.
paṭibhāseyyāti → paṭibhāseyyāsi (cck) | tenahudāyi taṁyevettha → tenahi udāyi taññevettha (sya-all) | tenahudāyi taṁyevettha paṭibhātu → tena h udāyi taṁ yev ettha patibhātu (pts)“Well then, Udāyī, suggest something for me to talk about.”
“Purimāni, bhante, divasāni purimatarāni sabbaññū sabbadassāvī aparisesaṁ ñāṇadassanaṁ paṭijānamāno ‘carato ca me tiṭṭhato ca suttassa ca jāgarassa ca satataṁ samitaṁ ñāṇadassanaṁ paccupaṭṭhitan’ti.
paccupaṭṭhitanti → paccupaṭṭhitan ti (pts)“Sir, a few days ago someone was claiming to be all-knowing and all-seeing, to know and see everything without exception, thus: ‘Knowledge and vision are constantly and continually present to me, while walking, standing, sleeping, and waking.’
So mayā pubbantaṁ ārabbha pañhaṁ puṭṭho samāno aññenaññaṁ paṭicari, bahiddhā kathaṁ apanāmesi, kopañca dosañca appaccayañca pātvākāsi.
mayā → paccupaṭṭhitan ti may | mayā → paccupaṭṭhita’’nti mayā (cck: ?) | bahiddhā kathaṁ → bahiddhākathaṁ (th) | aññenaññaṁ → aññen aññaṁ (pts) | kopañca dosañca appaccayañca → kopañ ca dosañ ca appaccayañ ca (pts)When I asked them a question about the first beginning, they dodged the issue, distracted the discussion with irrelevant points, and displayed annoyance, hate, and bitterness.
Tassa mayhaṁ, bhante, bhagavantaṁyeva ārabbha sati udapādi:
sati → pīti (bj, pts) | pīti → Skt sīti; Bm Si sati. (pts note) | bhagavantaṁyeva → bhagavantaṁ yeva (pts)That reminded me of the Buddha:
‘aho nūna bhagavā, aho nūna sugato. Yo imesaṁ dhammānaṁ sukusalo’”ti.
sukusaloti → kusaloti (bj, sya-all, pts) | sukusaloti → kusalo ti (pts)‘Surely it must be the Blessed One, the Holy One who is so skilled in such matters.’”
“Ko pana so, udāyi, sabbaññū sabbadassāvī aparisesaṁ ñāṇadassanaṁ paṭijānamāno ‘carato ca me tiṭṭhato ca suttassa ca jāgarassa ca satataṁ samitaṁ ñāṇadassanaṁ paccupaṭṭhitan’ti, yo tayā pubbantaṁ ārabbha pañhaṁ puṭṭho samāno aññenaññaṁ paṭicari, bahiddhā kathaṁ apanāmesi kopañca dosañca appaccayañca pātvākāsī”ti?
pana so → penaso (bj); paneso (sya-all, pts) | yo → so (sya-all) | sabbadassāvī → sabbādassāvī (pts) | tayā → so tayā (bj: syā) | tayā → Bm Si so tayā; Skt yo nayā. (pts note) | bahiddhā kathaṁ → bahiddhākathaṁ (th) | pana so → pan eso (pts) | paccupaṭṭhitanti → paccupaṭṭhitan ti (pts) | aññenaññaṁ → aññen aññaṁ (pts) | kopañca dosañca appaccayañca → kopañ ca dosañ ca appaccayañ ca (pts)“But Udāyī, who was it that made such a claim and behaved in such a way?”
“Nigaṇṭho, bhante, nāṭaputto”ti.
nāṭaputtoti → nātaputtoti (bj, pts) | nigaṇṭho → nigantho (sya-all) | Nātaputto → Bm Si Nāṭ-. (pts note) | nāṭaputtoti → nātaputto ti (pts)“It was the Jain ascetic of the Ñātika clan, sir.”
“Yo kho, udāyi, anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussareyya, seyyathidaṁ—ekampi jātiṁ dvepi jātiyo …pe… iti sākāraṁ sauddesaṁ anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussareyya, so vā maṁ pubbantaṁ ārabbha pañhaṁ puccheyya, taṁ vāhaṁ pubbantaṁ ārabbha pañhaṁ puccheyyaṁ;
vā → Stk omit vā here. (pts note) | seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th) | seyyathidaṁ ekampi → seyyathīdaṁ ekam pi (pts) | dvepi → dve pi (pts) | sauddesaṁ → sa-uddesaṁ (pts) | taṁ vāhaṁ → tam vā haṁ (pts)“Udāyī, someone who can recollect their many kinds of past lives, with features and details, might ask me a question about the first beginning, or I might ask them a question about the first beginning.
so vā me pubbantaṁ ārabbha pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṁ ārādheyya, tassa vāhaṁ pubbantaṁ ārabbha pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṁ ārādheyyaṁ.
cittaṁ → cittam (pts) | vāhaṁ → vā haṁ (pts)And they might satisfy me with their answer, or I might satisfy them with my answer.
Yo kho, udāyi, dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkantamānusakena satte passeyya cavamāne upapajjamāne hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe sugate duggate yathākammūpage satte pajāneyya, so vā maṁ aparantaṁ ārabbha pañhaṁ puccheyya, taṁ vāhaṁ aparantaṁ ārabbha pañhaṁ puccheyyaṁ;
Yo → so (si, pts1ed) | yo → so (pts) | vāhaṁ → va haṁ (pts) | kho → so kho (bj: sīmu8, PTS) | Yo → so (cck: sī. pī.)Someone who, with clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, understands how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds might ask me a question about the final end, or I might ask them a question about the final end.
so vā me aparantaṁ ārabbha pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṁ ārādheyya, tassa vāhaṁ aparantaṁ ārabbha pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṁ ārādheyyaṁ.
vāhaṁ → vā ham (pts)And they might satisfy me with their answer, or I might satisfy them with my answer.
Api ca, udāyi, tiṭṭhatu pubbanto, tiṭṭhatu aparanto.
api ca udāyi → apicudāyi (bj, sya-all)Nevertheless, Udāyī, leave aside the first beginning and the final end.
Dhammaṁ te desessāmi—
dhammaṁ te → dhammante (th) | dhammaṁ → dhamman (pts)I shall teach you the Dhamma:
imasmiṁ sati idaṁ hoti, imassuppādā idaṁ uppajjati;
uppajjati → upapajjati (pts) | imassuppādā → imass uppādā (pts)‘When this exists, this comes to be; due to the arising of this, this arises.
imasmiṁ asati idaṁ na hoti, imassa nirodhā idaṁ nirujjhatī”ti.
idaṁ → imaṁ (bj, pts)When this doesn’t exist, that is not; due to the cessation of this, that ceases.’”
“Ahañhi, bhante, yāvatakampi me iminā attabhāvena paccanubhūtaṁ tampi nappahomi sākāraṁ sauddesaṁ anussarituṁ,
ahañhi → ahaṁ (pts) | bhante → ahaṁ bhante (bj: sīmu8, PTS) | sākāraṁ → iti sākāraṁ (bj: sīmu8, PTS) | ahañhi → ahaṁ hi (bjt) | yāvatakampi → yāvatakam pi (pts) | tampi → tam pi (pts) | sauddesaṁ → sa-uddesaṁ (pts)“Well sir, I can’t even recall with features and details what I’ve undergone in this incarnation.
kuto panāhaṁ anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarissāmi, seyyathidaṁ—ekampi jātiṁ dvepi jātiyo …pe… iti sākāraṁ sauddesaṁ anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarissāmi, seyyathāpi bhagavā?
dvepi → dvepi jātiyo tissopi (sya-all) | seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th) | + → tissopi jātiyo (th) | seyyathidaṁ ekampi → seyyathīdaṁ ekaṁ pi (pts) | dvepi → dve pi (pts) | sauddesaṁ → sa-uddesaṁ (pts)How should I possibly recollect my many kinds of past lives with features and details, like the Buddha?
Ahañhi, bhante, etarahi paṁsupisācakampi na passāmi,
ahañhi → ahaṁ hi (bjt, pts) | paṁsupisācakampi → paṁsupisācakam pi (pts)For I can’t even see a mud-goblin right now.
kuto panāhaṁ dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkantamānusakena satte passissāmi cavamāne upapajjamāne hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe sugate duggate yathākammūpage satte pajānissāmi, seyyathāpi bhagavā?How should I possibly, with clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, see sentient beings passing away and being reborn, like the Buddha?
Yaṁ pana maṁ, bhante, bhagavā evamāha:
yaṁ pana → yampana (th) | evamāha → evam āha (pts)But then the Buddha told me,
‘api ca, udāyi, tiṭṭhatu pubbanto, tiṭṭhatu aparanto;
ca udāyi → cudāyi (bj) | api ca udāyi → apicudāyi (sya-all)‘Nevertheless, Udāyī, leave aside the first beginning and the final end.
dhammaṁ te desessāmi—
te → (pts) | desessāmi:-- → Bu desissāmi; Si alone inserts te. (pts note) | dhammaṁ te → dhammante (th)I shall teach you the Dhamma:
imasmiṁ sati idaṁ hoti, imassuppādā idaṁ uppajjati;
uppajjati → upapajjati (pts) | imassuppādā → imass uppādā (pts)“When this exists, this comes to be; due to the arising of this, this arises.
imasmiṁ asati idaṁ na hoti, imassa nirodhā idaṁ nirujjhatī’ti tañca pana me bhiyyoso mattāya na pakkhāyati.
pakkhāyati → So Si; Bm na makkhāyati; Skt pana pakkhāyīti. (pts note) | bhiyyoso mattāya → bhiyyosomattāya (my, bjt, pts) | tañca → tañ ca (pts)When this doesn’t exist, this doesn’t come to be; due to the cessation of this, this ceases.”’ But that is even more unclear to me.
Appeva nāmāhaṁ, bhante, sake ācariyake bhagavato cittaṁ ārādheyyaṁ pañhassa veyyākaraṇenā”ti.
appeva nāmāhaṁ → appevanāma (sya-all) | veyyākaraṇenāti → veyyakaraṇenāti (sya-all) | appeva nāmāhaṁ → appevanāmāhaṁ (bjt)Perhaps I might satisfy the Buddha by answering a question about my own denomination.”
“Kinti pana te, udāyi, sake ācariyake hotī”ti?
kinti → kin ti (pts)“But Udāyī, what is your own denomination?”
“Amhākaṁ, bhante, sake ācariyake evaṁ hoti:“Sir, it’s this:
‘ayaṁ paramo vaṇṇo, ayaṁ paramo vaṇṇo’”ti.
vaṇṇoti → vaṇṇo ti (pts)‘This is the ultimate splendor, this is the ultimate splendor.’”
“Yaṁ pana te etaṁ, udāyi, sake ācariyake evaṁ hoti:
etaṁ → taṁ (sya-all) | yaṁ pana → yampana (th)“But what is that ultimate splendor?”
‘ayaṁ paramo vaṇṇo, ayaṁ paramo vaṇṇo’ti, katamo so paramo vaṇṇo”ti?
katamo → katamo pana (sya-all) | vaṇṇoti → vaṇṇo ti (pts)
“Yasmā, bhante, vaṇṇā añño vaṇṇo uttaritaro vā paṇītataro vā natthi so paramo vaṇṇo”ti.
natthi → na tthi (pts) | vaṇṇoti → vaṇṇo ti (pts)“Sir, the ultimate splendor is the splendor compared to which no other splendor is finer.”
“Katamo pana so paramo vaṇṇo yasmā vaṇṇā añño vaṇṇo uttaritaro vā paṇītataro vā natthī”ti?
paramo → udāyi (bj, sya-all, pts) | vaṇṇo → so paramo vaṇṇo (bj: machasaṁ) | natthīti → na tthīti (pts)“But what is that ultimate splendor compared to which no other splendor is finer?”
“Yasmā, bhante, vaṇṇā añño vaṇṇo uttaritaro vā paṇītataro vā natthi so paramo vaṇṇo”ti.
ti → So Si; Sk reads Katamo pana so Udāyi vaṇṇo yasmā añño vaṇṇo utt. vā pan. vā na 'tthīti; Bm Katamo pana so paramo vaṇṇo? Yasmā bhante &c. (pts note) | natthi → na tthi (pts) | vaṇṇoti → vaṇṇo ti (pts)“Sir, the ultimate splendor is the splendor compared to which no other splendor is finer.”
“Dīghāpi kho te esā, udāyi, phareyya:
dīghāpi → dīghā pi (pts)“Udāyī, you could draw this out for a long time.
‘yasmā, bhante, vaṇṇā añño vaṇṇo uttaritaro vā paṇītataro vā natthi so paramo vaṇṇo’ti vadesi, tañca vaṇṇaṁ na paññapesi.
paññapesi → paññāpesi (bj, sya-all, pts) | vā → va (pts) | natthi → na tthi (pts) | vaṇṇoti vadesi tañca → vaṇṇo ti vadasi tañ ca (pts)You say, ‘The ultimate splendor is the splendor compared to which no other splendor is finer.’ But you don’t describe that splendor.
Seyyathāpi, udāyi, puriso evaṁ vadeyya:Suppose a man was to say,
‘ahaṁ yā imasmiṁ janapade janapadakalyāṇī taṁ icchāmi, taṁ kāmemī’ti.‘Whoever the finest lady in the land is, it is her that I want, her I desire!’
Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him,
‘ambho purisa, yaṁ tvaṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ icchasi kāmesi, jānāsi taṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ—khattiyī vā brāhmaṇī vā vessī vā suddī vā’ti?
khattiyī → khattiyiṁ (sya-all) | brāhmaṇī → brāhmaṇiṁ (sya-all) | vessī → vessiṁ (sya-all) | suddī → suddiṁ (sya-all) | suddī vāti → suddīvāti (bjt) | vāti → vā ti (pts)‘My man, that finest lady in the land who you desire—do you know whether she’s an aristocrat, a brahmin, a peasant, or a menial?’
Iti puṭṭho ‘no’ti vadeyya.
noti → no ti (pts)Asked this, he’d say, ‘No.’
Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him,
‘ambho purisa, yaṁ tvaṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ icchasi kāmesi, jānāsi taṁ janapadakalyāṇiṁ—evaṁnāmā evaṅgottāti vāti …pe… dīghā vā rassā vā majjhimā vā kāḷī vā sāmā vā maṅguracchavī vāti … amukasmiṁ gāme vā nigame vā nagare vā’ti?
taṁ → tvaṁ (bj) | evaṁnāmā evaṅgottāti → evannāmā evaṅgottā iti (bj); evaṁvaṇṇā evaṁgottā iti (sya-all) | amukasmiṁ → amukasmiṁ nāma (sya-all) | evaṅgottāti vāti → evaṁgottā iti vā ti (pts) | majjhimā → majjhā vā (sya-all: sī.) | Evaṁnāmā → Bm Si evaṁvaṇṇā. (pts note) | majjhimā → So Bm & Si; Skt majjhā, which Si notes as the Sinh. reading. Cf. Nr. 80 & 1 Dīgha p. 241. (pts note) | evaṅgottāti → evaṁgottāti (my, ms2005)‘My friend, that finest lady in the land who you desire—do you know her name or clan? Whether she’s tall or short or medium? Whether her skin is black, brown, or dingy? Whether she comes from such-and-such village, town, or city?’
Iti puṭṭho ‘no’ti vadeyya.
noti → no ti (pts)Asked this, he’d say, ‘No.’
Tamenaṁ evaṁ vadeyyuṁ:
tamenaṁ → tam enaṁ (pts)They’d say to him,
‘ambho purisa, yaṁ tvaṁ na jānāsi na passasi, taṁ tvaṁ icchasi kāmesī’ti?
kāmesīti → kamesīti (pts)‘My man, do you desire someone who you’ve never even known or seen?’
Iti puṭṭho ‘āmā’ti vadeyya.Asked this, he’d say, ‘Yes.’
Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi—
kiṁ → kim (pts)What do you think, Udāyī?
nanu evaṁ sante, tassa purisassa appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti?
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihīrakaṁ (bj); appāṭihirīkataṁ (sya-all) | appāṭihīrakaṁ → appāṭihirīkataṁ (bj: machasaṁ, PTS); appāṭihirīkataṁ (bj: syā) | appāṭihīrakataṁ → So Bu; Si appāṭihirikataṁ; Bm appāṭihirakataṁ; Skt appāṭihīrikaṁ. (pts note)This being so, doesn’t that man’s statement turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”
“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṁ sante tassa purisassa appāṭihīrakataṁ bhāsitaṁ sampajjatī”ti.
appāṭihīrakataṁ → appāṭihīrakaṁ (bj); appāṭihirīkataṁ (sya-all)“Clearly that’s the case, sir.”
“Evameva kho tvaṁ, udāyi, ‘yasmā, bhante, vaṇṇā añño vaṇṇo uttaritaro vā paṇītataro vā natthi so paramo vaṇṇo’ti vadesi, tañca vaṇṇaṁ na paññapesī”ti.
tvaṁ → (bj) | paññapesīti → paññāpesīti (bj, sya-all, pts) | evameva → evam eva (pts) | natthi → na tthi (pts) | vaṇṇoti vadesi tañca → vaṇṇo ti vadasi tañ ca (pts)“In the same way, you say, ‘The ultimate splendor is the splendor compared to which no other splendor is finer.’ But you don’t describe that splendor.”
“Seyyathāpi, bhante, maṇi veḷuriyo subho jātimā aṭṭhaṁso suparikammakato paṇḍukambale nikkhitto bhāsate ca tapate ca virocati ca, evaṁ vaṇṇo attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā”ti.
bhāsate → bhāsati (bj, pts) | tapate → tapati (bj, pts) | jātimā → jotimā (sya-all) | ca → bhāsate ca tapate ca (bj: sīmu8, machasaṁ); virocate ca (bj: sīmu); bhāsateva tapateva virocateva (bj: syā) | virocateva → bhāsati ca tapati ca virocati ca (sya-all: sī.) | bhāsati → This is the Sinhalese reading, as noted by Si (which reads bhāsate va tapate va virocate va); Bm bhāsate ca tapate ca (as Sk infra Nr. 80). (pts note) | arogo → Skt ārogo here & in Nr. 80. Cf. 1 Jāt. 368. (pts note) | paraṁ maraṇāti → parammaraṇāti (bjt, th) | bhāsate ca tapate ca virocati ca evaṁ vaṇṇo → bhāsateva tapateva virocateva evaṁvaṇṇo (th) | evaṁ vaṇṇo → evaṁvaṇṇo (pts) | paraṁ maraṇāti → param maraṇā ti (pts)“Worthy sir, suppose there was a beryl gem that was naturally lustrous, eight-faceted, well-worked. When placed on a cream rug it would shine and glow and dazzle. Such is the splendor of the self that is free of disease after death.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yo vā maṇi veḷuriyo subho jātimā aṭṭhaṁso suparikammakato paṇḍukambale nikkhitto bhāsate ca tapate ca virocati ca, yo vā rattandhakāratimisāya kimi khajjopanako—imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ katamo vaṇṇo abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti?
yo vā → (bj) | bhāsate → bhāsati (bj, pts) | tapate → tapati (bj, pts) | rattandhakāratimisāya → rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ (bj) | khajjopanako → khajjopaṇako (bj) | jātimā → jotimā (sya-all) | ca → bhāsate ca tapate ca (bj: sīmu8, machasaṁ); virocate ca (bj: sīmu); bhāsateva tapateva virocateva (bj: syā) | ca → sīhaḷapotthake anekaṭhānesu vāti pāṭho dissati (sya-all note) | vā → Skt omit vā. (pts note) | ca → So Bm Si, the latter with note ‘Sīhaḷapotthake anekaṭhānesu vā ti pāṭho dissati'; Skt vā . . . cāti here, but ca . . . cāti infra. (pts note)Which of these two has a finer splendor: such a beryl gem, or a firefly in the dark of night?”
“Yvāyaṁ, bhante, rattandhakāratimisāya kimi khajjopanako—ayaṁ imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti.
yvāyaṁ bhante rattandhakāratimisāya → yvāyambhante rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ (bj) | khajjopanako → khajjopaṇako (bj)“A firefly in the dark of night, sir.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yo vā rattandhakāratimisāya kimi khajjopanako, yo vā rattandhakāratimisāya telappadīpo—imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ katamo vaṇṇo abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti?
rattandhakāratimisāya → rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ (bj) | khajjopanako → khajjopaṇako (bj) | rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ → rattandhakāratimisāya (bj: machasaṁ, PTS, syā)Which of these two has a finer splendor: a firefly in the dark of night, or an oil lamp in the dark of night?”
“Yvāyaṁ, bhante, rattandhakāratimisāya telappadīpo—ayaṁ imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti.
rattandhakāratimisāya → rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ (bj)“An oil lamp in the dark of night, sir.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yo vā rattandhakāratimisāya telappadīpo, yo vā rattandhakāratimisāya mahāaggikkhandho—imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ katamo vaṇṇo abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti?
rattandhakāratimisāya → rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ (bj) | rattandhakāratimisāya mahāaggikkhandho → rattandakāratimisāya mahā aggikkhandho (pts)Which of these two has a finer splendor: an oil lamp in the dark of night, or a great mass of fire in the dark of night?”
“Yvāyaṁ, bhante, rattandhakāratimisāya mahāaggikkhandho—ayaṁ imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti.
rattandhakāratimisāya → rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ (bj) | mahāaggikkhandho → mahā aggikkhandho (pts)“A great mass of fire in the dark of night, sir.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yo vā rattandhakāratimisāya mahāaggikkhandho, yā vā rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ viddhe vigatavalāhake deve osadhitārakā—imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ katamo vaṇṇo abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti?
rattandhakāratimisāya → rattandhakāratimisāyaṁ (bj) | osadhitārakā → osadhītārakā (bj) | mahāaggikkhandho → aggikkhandho (sya-all) | mahāaggikkhandho → mahā aggikkhandho (pts)Which of these two has a finer splendor: a great mass of fire in the dark of night, or the morning star in the clear and cloudless heavens at the crack of dawn?”
“Yvāyaṁ, bhante, rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ viddhe vigatavalāhake deve osadhitārakā—ayaṁ imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti.
yvāyaṁ → yāyaṁ (bj, sya-all, pts) | osadhitārakā → osadhītārakā (bj)“The morning star in the clear and cloudless heavens at the crack of dawn, sir.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yā vā rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ viddhe vigatavalāhake deve osadhitārakā, yo vā tadahuposathe pannarase viddhe vigatavalāhake deve abhido aḍḍharattasamayaṁ cando—imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ katamo vaṇṇo abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti?
osadhitārakā → osadhītārakā (bj) | pannarase → paṇṇarase (bj, sya-all) | abhido → abhide (bj: sīmu8) | abhido → abhide (cck: ka. sī.); abhidosaṁ (cck: ka.); abhidoti abhisaddena samānatthanipātapadaṁ (cck: chakkaṅguttaraṭīkā mahāvagga aṭṭhamasuttavaṇṇanā) | yo → All MSS yā here & yo in Nr. 80. (pts note) | abhido → So Si Bu, & Skt once infra; Sk abhidose twice & abhidosa once; Bm abhidosaṁ always; St abhidese twice. In Nr. 80 Sk abhide. (pts note) | tadahuposathe → tadahu posathe (pts)Which of these two has a finer splendor: the morning star in the clear and cloudless heavens at the crack of dawn, or the full moon at midnight in the clear and cloudless heavens on the fifteenth day sabbath?”
“Yvāyaṁ, bhante, tadahuposathe pannarase viddhe vigatavalāhake deve abhido aḍḍharattasamayaṁ cando—ayaṁ imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti.
pannarase → paṇṇarase (bj, sya-all) | abhido → abhide (bj: sīmu8) | tadahuposathe → tadahu posathe (pts)“The full moon at midnight in the clear and cloudless heavens on the fifteenth day sabbath, sir.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yo vā tadahuposathe pannarase viddhe vigatavalāhake deve abhido aḍḍharattasamayaṁ cando, yo vā vassānaṁ pacchime māse saradasamaye viddhe vigatavalāhake deve abhido majjhanhikasamayaṁ sūriyo—imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ katamo vaṇṇo abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti?
pannarase → paṇṇarase (bj, sya-all) | majjhanhikasamayaṁ sūriyo → majjhantikaṁ samayaṁ suriyo (bj); majjhantikasamayaṁ suriyo (sya-all, pts) | katamo → katamo ca (bj) | tadahuposathe → tadahu posathe (pts)Which of these two has a finer splendor: the full moon at midnight in the clear and cloudless heavens on the fifteenth day sabbath, or the sun at midday in the clear and cloudless heavens in the last month of the rainy season, in autumn?”
“Yvāyaṁ, bhante, vassānaṁ pacchime māse saradasamaye viddhe vigatavalāhake deve abhido majjhanhikasamayaṁ sūriyo—ayaṁ imesaṁ ubhinnaṁ vaṇṇānaṁ abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro cā”ti.
majjhanhikasamayaṁ sūriyo → majjhantikaṁ samayaṁ suriyo (bj); majjhantikasamayaṁ suriyo (sya-all, pts)“The sun at midday in the clear and cloudless heavens in the last month of the rainy season, in autumn, sir.”
“Ato kho te, udāyi, bahū hi bahutarā devā ye imesaṁ candimasūriyānaṁ ābhā nānubhonti, tyāhaṁ pajānāmi.
candimasūriyānaṁ → candimasuriyānaṁ (bj, sya-all, pts) | ato → tato (sya-all) | ato → tato (bj: syā) | ābhā → ābhā te (bj: sīmu8) | kho → ato khoti dissati (sya-all: yu.) | Ato → Si tato. In Nr. 80 Sk atha. (pts note) | ābhā → So MSS; Bu ābhāya. (pts note) | bahū hi → bahūhi (pts)“Beyond this, Udāyī, I know very many gods on whom the luminosity of the sun and moon makes no impression.
Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi:Nevertheless, I do not say:
‘yasmā vaṇṇā añño vaṇṇo uttaritaro vā paṇītataro vā natthī’ti.
natthīti → na tthīti (pts)‘The splendor compared to which no other splendor is finer.’
Atha ca pana tvaṁ, udāyi, ‘yvāyaṁ vaṇṇo kiminā khajjopanakena nihīnataro ca patikiṭṭhataro ca so paramo vaṇṇo’ti vadesi, tañca vaṇṇaṁ na paññapesī”ti.
nihīnataro → hīnataro (bj, pts1ed) | khajjopanakena nihīnataro → khajjopaṇakena hīnataro (bj) | paññapesīti → paññāpesīti (bj, sya-all, pts) | patikiṭṭhataro → kiliṭṭhataro (sya-all) | nihīnataro → hīnataro (pts) | hīnataro → nihīnataro (bj: machasaṁ, syā) | nihīnataro → hīnataro (cck: sī. pī.) | hīnataro → Bm Si nihīnataro. (pts note) | patikiṭṭhataro → Si kiliṭṭhataro; Bm patiṭṭataro. (pts note) | vaṇṇoti vadesi tañca → vaṇṇo ti vadasi tañ ca (pts)But of the splendor inferior to a firefly you say, ‘This is the ultimate splendor.’ And you don’t describe that splendor.”
“Acchidaṁ bhagavā kathaṁ, acchidaṁ sugato kathan”ti.
Acchidaṁ → acchira (mr); acchida (?) | sugato → sugata (sya-all) | Acchidaṁ → acchira (cck: ka.); acchida (cck: ?) | Acchidaṁ → So Skt Si; Bm acchira. (pts note) | kathanti → kathan ti (pts)“The Blessed One has cut short the discussion! The Holy One has cut short the discussion!”
“Kiṁ pana tvaṁ, udāyi, evaṁ vadesi:
vadesi → vadasi (pts) | kiṁ → kim (pts)“But Udāyī, why do you say this?”
‘acchidaṁ bhagavā kathaṁ, acchidaṁ sugato kathan’”ti?
sugato → sugata (sya-all) | kathanti → kathaṁti (my) | acchidaṁ → acchidam (pts) | kathanti → kathan ti (pts)
“Amhākaṁ, bhante, sake ācariyake evaṁ hoti:“Sir, it says this in our own denomination:
‘ayaṁ paramo vaṇṇo, ayaṁ paramo vaṇṇo’ti.
vaṇṇoti → vaṇṇo ti (pts)‘This is the ultimate splendor, this is the ultimate splendor.’
Te mayaṁ, bhante, bhagavatā sake ācariyake samanuyuñjīyamānā samanuggāhīyamānā samanubhāsīyamānā rittā tucchā aparaddhā”ti.
samanuyuñjīyamānā samanuggāhīyamānā samanubhāsīyamānā → samanuyuñjiyamānā samanugāhiyamānā samanubhāsiyamānā (bj, cck, sya-all, pts) | samanuyuñjīyamānā samanuggāhīyamānā samanubhāsīyamānā → samanuyuñjiyamānā samanuggāhiyamānā samanubhāsiyamānā (my, th, pts) | aparaddhāti → aparaddhā ti (pts)But when pursued, pressed, and grilled on our own denomination, we turned out to be vacuous, hollow, and mistaken.”
“Kiṁ panudāyi, atthi ekantasukho loko, atthi ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti?
panudāyi → pan udāyi (pts)“But Udāyī, is there a world of absolute happiness? And is there a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”
“Amhākaṁ, bhante, sake ācariyake evaṁ hoti:“Sir, it says this in our own denomination: ‘atthi ekantasukho loko, atthi ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā’”ti.‘There is a world of absolute happiness. And there is a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.’”
“Katamā pana sā, udāyi, ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti?
ekantasukhassa → ekantasukassa (pts)“Well, what is that grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”
“Idha, bhante, ekacco pāṇātipātaṁ pahāya pāṇātipātā paṭivirato hoti, adinnādānaṁ pahāya adinnādānā paṭivirato hoti, kāmesumicchācāraṁ pahāya kāmesumicchācārā paṭivirato hoti, musāvādaṁ pahāya musāvādā paṭivirato hoti, aññataraṁ vā pana tapoguṇaṁ samādāya vattati.
kāmesumicchācāraṁ → kāmesu micchācāraṁ (bjt, pts) | kāmesumicchācārā → kāmesu micchācārā (bjt, pts)“Sir, it’s when someone gives up killing living creatures, stealing, sexual misconduct, and lying. And they proceed having undertaken some kind of mortification.
Ayaṁ kho sā, bhante, ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti.This is the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yasmiṁ samaye pāṇātipātaṁ pahāya pāṇātipātā paṭivirato hoti, ekantasukhī vā tasmiṁ samaye attā hoti sukhadukkhī vā”ti?
sukhadukkhī → sukha dukkhī (th) | vāti → vā ti (pts)On an occasion when someone refrains from killing living creatures, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”
“Sukhadukkhī, bhante”.
sukhadukkhī bhante → sukha dukkhī bhanteti (sya-all) | bhante → Sk here, & Si throughout, adds ti. (pts note)“It has both pleasure and pain.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yasmiṁ samaye adinnādānaṁ pahāya adinnādānā paṭivirato hoti, ekantasukhī vā tasmiṁ samaye attā hoti sukhadukkhī vā”ti?
sukhadukkhī → sukha dukkhī (th) | vāti → vā ti (pts)On an occasion when someone refrains from stealing …
“Sukhadukkhī, bhante”.
sukhadukkhī bhante → sukha dukkhī bhanteti (sya-all)
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi, yasmiṁ samaye kāmesumicchācāraṁ pahāya kāmesumicchācārā paṭivirato hoti, ekantasukhī vā tasmiṁ samaye attā hoti sukhadukkhī vā”ti?
kāmesumicchācāraṁ → kāmesu micchācāraṁ (bjt, th, pts) | kāmesumicchācārā → kāmesu micchācārā (bjt, th, pts) | sukhadukkhī → sukha dukkhī (th) | kiṁ → kim (pts) | vāti → vā ti (pts)sexual misconduct …
“Sukhadukkhī, bhante”.
sukhadukkhī bhante → sukha dukkhī bhanteti (sya-all)
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi, yasmiṁ samaye musāvādaṁ pahāya musāvādā paṭivirato hoti, ekantasukhī vā tasmiṁ samaye attā hoti sukhadukkhī vā”ti?
sukhadukkhī → sukha dukkhī (th) | kiṁ → kim (pts) | vāti → vā ti (pts)lying, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”
“Sukhadukkhī, bhante”.
sukhadukkhī bhante → sukha dukkhī bhanteti (sya-all)“It has both pleasure and pain.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
yasmiṁ samaye aññataraṁ tapoguṇaṁ samādāya vattati, ekantasukhī vā tasmiṁ samaye attā hoti sukhadukkhī vā”ti?
sukhadukkhī → sukha dukkhī (th) | vāti → vā ti (pts)On an occasion when someone proceeds having undertaken some kind of mortification, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”
“Sukhadukkhī, bhante”.
sukhadukkhī bhante → sukha dukkhī bhanteti (sya-all) | sukhadukkhī → sukkhadukkhī (pts)“It has both pleasure and pain.”
“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, udāyi,
kiṁ → kim (pts)“What do you think, Udāyī?
api nu kho vokiṇṇasukhadukkhaṁ paṭipadaṁ āgamma ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyā hotī”ti?
sacchikiriyā hotī”ti → sacchikiriyāyāti (mr) | hotī’’ti → sacchikiriyāyāti (cck: ka.) | hotīti → So Sk Si; Bm sacchikiriyāyāti. (pts note)Is an absolutely happy world realized by relying on a practice of mixed pleasure and pain?”
“Acchidaṁ bhagavā kathaṁ, acchidaṁ sugato kathan”ti.
sugato → sugata (sya-all) | kathanti → kathan ti (pts)“The Blessed One has cut short the discussion! The Holy One has cut short the discussion!”
“Kiṁ pana tvaṁ, udāyi, vadesi:
udāyi → udāyi evaṁ (bj, sya-all) | vadesi → evaṁ vadasi (pts) | kiṁ → kim (pts)“But Udāyī, why do you say this?”
‘acchidaṁ bhagavā kathaṁ, acchidaṁ sugato kathan’”ti?
sugato → sugata (sya-all) | kathanti → kathaṁti (my) | kathanti → kathan ti (pts)
“Amhākaṁ, bhante, sake ācariyake evaṁ hoti:“Sir, it says this in our own denomination:
‘atthi ekantasukho loko, atthi ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā’ti.‘There is a world of absolute happiness. And there is a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.’
Te mayaṁ, bhante, bhagavatā sake ācariyake samanuyuñjiyamānā samanuggāhiyamānā samanubhāsiyamānā rittā tucchā aparaddhā”ti.
aparaddhā”ti → aparaddhāpi (sya-all, km, pts1ed) | aparaddhāti → aparaddhāpi (sya-all) | aparaddhāti kiṁ → aparaddhā pi kim (pts) | aparaddhā’’ti → aparaddhā (cck: sī.); aparaddhāpi (cck: syā. kaṁ. pī.) | pi → So Si; Bm aparaddhā ti; Sk aparaṇḍā vā; St aparaddhā vā. (pts note) | samanuggāhiyamānā → samanugāhiyamānā (bjt)But when pursued, pressed, and grilled on our own denomination, we turned out to be vacuous, hollow, and mistaken.
“Kiṁ pana, bhante, atthi ekantasukho loko, atthi ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti?
kiṁ → kim (pts)But sir, is there a world of absolute happiness? And is there a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”
“Atthi kho, udāyi, ekantasukho loko, atthi ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti.“There is a world of absolute happiness, Udāyī. And there is a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”
“Katamā pana sā, bhante, ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti?“Well sir, what is that grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”
“Idhudāyi, bhikkhu vivicceva kāmehi …pe… paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati;
paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ → paṭhamajjhānaṁ (pts) | idhudāyi → idh udāyi (pts) | vivicceva → eva (pts)“It’s when a mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption.
vitakkavicārānaṁ vūpasamā …pe… dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati;
pe → Skt omit. (pts note) | dutiyajjhānaṁ → Bm Si insert upasampajja viharati, pitiyā ca virāgā. (pts note)As the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, they enter and remain in the second absorption.
pītiyā ca virāgā …pe… tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati—
tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ → tatiyajjhānaṁ (pts)With the fading away of rapture, they enter and remain in the third absorption.
ayaṁ kho sā, udāyi, ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti.This is the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”
“Na kho sā, bhante, ākāravatī paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāya, sacchikato hissa, bhante, ettāvatā ekantasukho loko hotī”ti.
Na → kinnu (sya-all); kiṁ nu (km, mr) | na → kinnu (sya-all) | kho → kiṁ nu kho (bj: syā) | Na → kiṁ nu (cck: syā. kaṁ. ka.) | kho → Bm Si kin nu kho. (pts note) | hotīti → Skt hoti. (pts note) | hissa → hi ssa (pts)“Sir, that’s not the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness. At that point an absolutely happy world has already been realized.”
“Na khvāssa, udāyi, ettāvatā ekantasukho loko sacchikato hoti;
khvāssa → khvassa (sya-all) | khvāssa → Bm Si na khvāssa; Sk nakkhāvāssa; St nakkhavāssa. (pts note) | na khvāssa → nakhvāssa (bjt)“No, Udāyī, at that point an absolutely happy world has not been realized.
ākāravatī tveva sā paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”ti.
ākāravatī tveva → ākāravatītveva (my, bjt)This is the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”
Evaṁ vutte, sakuludāyissa paribbājakassa parisā unnādinī uccāsaddamahāsaddā ahosi:
uccāsaddamahāsaddā → uccāsaddā mahāsaddā (pts) | uccāsaddamahāsaddā → uccāsaddā mahāsaddā (bj: syā, machasaṁ) | mahāsaddā → Bm Si uccāsaddamahāsaddā, Supra Skt unnādīni. (pts note) | ahosi:-- → So Skt Si; Bm ahesuṁ. (pts note) | uccāsaddamahāsaddā → uccāsadda mahāsaddā (th) | evaṁ → evam (pts)When he said this, Sakuludāyī’s assembly made an uproar, a colossal racket,
“ettha mayaṁ anassāma sācariyakā, ettha mayaṁ anassāma sācariyakā.
anassāma → panassāma (bj) | panassāma → anassāma (bj: machasaṁ, PTS) | anassāma → panassāma (cck: sī.) | mayaṁ → Skt add p'. (pts note)“In that case, we are lost, together with our denomination! We are lost, together with our denomination!
Na mayaṁ ito bhiyyo uttaritaraṁ pajānāmā”ti.We know nothing higher than this!”
Atha kho sakuludāyī paribbājako te paribbājake appasadde katvā bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:
sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (bj, sya-all, pts) | etadavoca → etad avoca (pts)Then Sakuludāyī, having quieted those wanderers, said to the Buddha,
“kittāvatā panāssa, bhante, ekantasukho loko sacchikato hotī”ti?
panāssa → panassa (bj, sya-all, pts) | panāssa → pan assa (pts)“Well sir, at what point is an absolutely happy world realized?”
“Idhudāyi, bhikkhu sukhassa ca pahānā …pe… catutthaṁ jhānaṁ … upasampajja viharati.
idhudāyi → idh udāyi (pts) | catutthaṁ jhānaṁ → pe-catutthajjhānaṁ (pts)“It’s when, with the giving up of pleasure and pain and the disappearance of former happiness and sadness, a mendicant enters and remains in the fourth absorption.
Yā tā devatā ekantasukhaṁ lokaṁ upapannā tāhi devatāhi saddhiṁ santiṭṭhati sallapati sākacchaṁ samāpajjati.
yā tā → yāvatā (bj, sya-all, pts) | upapannā → uppannā (pts)There are deities who have been reborn in a absolutely happy world. That mendicant associates with them, converses, and engages in discussion.
Ettāvatā khvāssa, udāyi, ekantasukho loko sacchikato hotī”ti.
khvāssa → khvassa (sya-all)It’s at this point that a absolutely happy world has been realized.”
“Etassa nūna, bhante, ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū bhagavati brahmacariyaṁ carantī”ti?
nūna → So Skt Si; Bm nanu. (pts note)“Surely the mendicants must lead the spiritual life under the Buddha for the sake of realizing this absolutely happy world?”
“Na kho, udāyi, ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ caranti.
udāyi → udāyi etassa (bj, sya-all, pts) | etassa → etassa (bj: machasaṁ natthi.)“No, Udāyī, the mendicants don’t lead the spiritual life under me for the sake of realizing this absolutely happy world.
Atthi kho, udāyi, aññeva dhammā uttaritarā ca paṇītatarā ca, yesaṁ sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ carantī”ti.
aññeva → aññe ca (bj) | ca → aññeva (bj: machasaṁ, PTS) | aññeva → aññe va (pts)There are other things that are finer, for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.”
“Katame pana te, bhante, dhammā uttaritarā ca paṇītatarā ca yesaṁ sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū bhagavati brahmacariyaṁ carantī”ti?
yesaṁ → yesam (pts)“But what are those finer things?”
“Idhudāyi, tathāgato loke uppajjati arahaṁ sammāsambuddho vijjācaraṇasampanno sugato lokavidū anuttaro purisadammasārathi satthā devamanussānaṁ buddho bhagavā …pe…
idhudāyi → idh udāyi (pts)“It’s when a Realized One arises in the world, perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed. …
so ime pañca nīvaraṇe pahāya cetaso upakkilese paññāya dubbalīkaraṇe
pañca nīvaraṇe → pañcanīvaraṇe (bjt)They give up these five hindrances, corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom.
vivicceva kāmehi …pe… paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.
paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ → paṭhamajjhānaṁ (pts) | vivicceva → eva (pts)Then, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, they enter and remain in the first absorption.
Ayampi kho, udāyi, dhammo uttaritaro ca paṇītataro ca yassa sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ caranti.
ayampi → ayam pi (pts)This is one of the finer things for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.
Puna caparaṁ, udāyi, bhikkhu vitakkavicārānaṁ vūpasamā … dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ …
bhikkhu → (sya-all) | caparaṁ → ca paraṁ (pts) | dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ → dutiyajjhānaṁ (pts)Furthermore, as the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, a mendicant enters and remains in the second absorption …
tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ …
tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ → tatiyajjhānaṁ (pts)third absorption …
catutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.
catutthaṁ jhānaṁ → catuṭṭhajjhānaṁ (pts)fourth absorption.
Ayampi kho, udāyi, dhammo uttaritaro ca paṇītataro ca yassa sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ caranti.
ayampi → ayam pi (pts)This too is one of the finer things.
So evaṁ samāhite citte parisuddhe pariyodāte anaṅgaṇe vigatūpakkilese mudubhūte kammaniye ṭhite āneñjappatte pubbenivāsānussatiñāṇāya cittaṁ abhininnāmeti.
āneñjappatte → ānejjappatte (pts)When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward recollection of past lives.
So anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarati, seyyathidaṁ—ekampi jātiṁ dvepi jātiyo …pe… iti sākāraṁ sauddesaṁ anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarati.
seyyathidaṁ → seyyathīdaṁ (th) | seyyathidaṁ ekampi → seyyathīdaṁ ekam pi (pts) | dvepi → dve pi (pts) | sauddesaṁ → sa-uddesaṁ (pts)They recollect many kinds of past lives. That is: one, two, three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand rebirths; many eons of the world contracting, many eons of the world expanding, many eons of the world contracting and expanding. They recollect their many kinds of past lives, with features and details.
Ayampi kho, udāyi, dhammo uttaritaro ca paṇītataro ca yassa sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ caranti.
ayampi → ayaṁ pi (pts)This too is one of the finer things.
So evaṁ samāhite citte parisuddhe pariyodāte anaṅgaṇe vigatūpakkilese mudubhūte kammaniye ṭhite āneñjappatte sattānaṁ cutūpapātañāṇāya cittaṁ abhininnāmeti.
āneñjappatte → ānejjappatte (pts)When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward knowledge of the death and rebirth of sentient beings.
So dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkantamānusakena satte passati cavamāne upapajjamāne hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe sugate duggate …pe… yathākammūpage satte pajānāti.
cakkhunā → cakkunā (pts) | yathākammūpage → yathā kammūpage (pts)With clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, they see sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. They understand how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds.
Ayampi kho, udāyi, dhammo uttaritaro ca paṇītataro ca yassa sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ caranti.
ayampi → ayam pi (pts)This too is one of the finer things.
So evaṁ samāhite citte parisuddhe pariyodāte anaṅgaṇe vigatūpakkilese mudubhūte kammaniye ṭhite āneñjappatte āsavānaṁ khayañāṇāya cittaṁ abhininnāmeti.
āneñjappatte → ānejjappatte (pts)When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward knowledge of the ending of defilements.
So ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti, ‘ayaṁ dukkhasamudayo’ti …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodho’ti … ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti,
yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti → (cck) | dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadāti → dukkhanirodhagāminīpaṭipadāti (bjt) | dukkhanti → dukkhan ti (pts) | dukkhasamudayoti → dukkhasamudayo ti (pts) | dukkhanirodhoti → dukkhanirodho ti (pts) | paṭipadāti → paṭipadā ti (pts)They truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’.
‘ime āsavā’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti, ‘ayaṁ āsavasamudayo’ti … ‘ayaṁ āsavanirodho’ti … ‘ayaṁ āsavanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti.
āsavāti → āsavā ti (pts) | āsavasamudayoti → āsavasamudayo ti (pts) | āsavanirodhoti → āsavanirodho ti (pts) | paṭipadāti → paṭipadā ti (pts)They truly understand: ‘These are defilements’ … ‘This is the origin of defilements’ … ‘This is the cessation of defilements’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of defilements’.
Tassa evaṁ jānato evaṁ passato kāmāsavāpi cittaṁ vimuccati, bhavāsavāpi cittaṁ vimuccati, avijjāsavāpi cittaṁ vimuccati.
evaṁ jānato evaṁ passato → evañjānato evampassato (bjt) | kāmāsavāpi → kāmāsavā pi (pts) | bhavāsavāpi → bhavāsavā pi (pts) | avijjāsavāpi → avijjāsavā pi (pts)Knowing and seeing like this, their mind is freed from the defilements of sensuality, desire to be reborn, and ignorance.
Vimuttasmiṁ vimuttamiti ñāṇaṁ hoti.
vimuttamiti → vimuttam iti (pts)When they’re freed, they know they’re freed.
‘Khīṇā jāti, vusitaṁ brahmacariyaṁ, kataṁ karaṇīyaṁ, nāparaṁ itthattāyā’ti pajānāti.They understand: ‘Rebirth is ended, the spiritual journey has been completed, what had to be done has been done, there is nothing further for this place.’
Ayampi kho, udāyi, dhammo uttaritaro ca paṇītataro ca yassa sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ caranti.
ayampi → ayaṁ (bj, sya-all, pts) | sacchikiriyāhetu → sacchikiriyā hetu (pts)This too is one of the finer things.
Ime kho, udāyi, dhammā uttaritarā ca paṇītatarā ca yesaṁ sacchikiriyāhetu bhikkhū mayi brahmacariyaṁ carantī”ti.
ime → ame (sya-all)These are the finer things for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.”
Evaṁ vutte, sakuludāyī paribbājako bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:
sakuludāyī → sakuludāyi (sya-all, pts) | etadavoca → etad avoca (pts)When he had spoken, Sakuludāyī said to the Buddha,
“abhikkantaṁ, bhante, abhikkantaṁ, bhante.“Excellent, sir! Excellent!
Seyyathāpi, bhante, nikkujjitaṁ vā ukkujjeyya, paṭicchannaṁ vā vivareyya, mūḷhassa vā maggaṁ ācikkheyya, andhakāre vā telapajjotaṁ dhāreyya: ‘cakkhumanto rūpāni dakkhantī’ti; evamevaṁ bhagavatā anekapariyāyena dhammo pakāsito.
dakkhantīti → dakkhintīti (bj) | rūpāni dakkhantīti evamevaṁ → rupāni dakkhintītievam evaṁ (pts) | evamevaṁ → evameva (th) | nikkujjitaṁ → nikujjitaṁ (pts) | rūpāni dakkhantīti evamevaṁ → rupāni dakkhintīti evam evaṁ (pts)As if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, the Buddha has made the teaching clear in many ways.
Esāhaṁ, bhante, bhagavantaṁ saraṇaṁ gacchāmi dhammañca bhikkhusaṅghañca.
bhikkhusaṅghañca → bhikkhusaṁghañca (ms2005) | dhammañca bhikkhusaṅghañca → dhammañ ca bhikkhusaṁghañ ca (pts)I go for refuge to the Buddha, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha.
Labheyyāhaṁ, bhante, bhagavato santike pabbajjaṁ, labheyyaṁ upasampadan”ti.
upasampadanti → upasampadan ti (pts)Sir, may I receive the going forth, the ordination in the Buddha’s presence?”
Evaṁ vutte, sakuludāyissa paribbājakassa parisā sakuludāyiṁ paribbājakaṁ etadavocuṁ:
etadavocuṁ → etadavoca (bj, sya-all, pts) | avoca:-- → Bm (alone) avocuṁ. (pts note) | etadavocuṁ → etad avoca (pts)When he said this, Sakuludāyī’s assembly said to him,
“mā bhavaṁ, udāyi, samaṇe gotame brahmacariyaṁ cari;“Worthy Udāyī, don’t lead the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama.
mā bhavaṁ, udāyi, ācariyo hutvā antevāsīvāsaṁ vasi.You have been a tutor; don’t live as a pupil.
Seyyathāpi nāma udakamaṇiko hutvā udañcaniko assa, evaṁ sampadamidaṁ bhoto udāyissa bhavissati.
udañcaniko → uddekaniko (sya-all, km, pts1ed) | udakamaṇiko → maṇiko (pts1ed, mr) | evaṁ sampadamidaṁ → evaṁ sampadametaṁ (pts1ed) | udakamaṇiko → maṇiko (pts) | udañcaniko → uddekaniko (pts) | sampadamidaṁ → sampadam etaṁ (pts) | udakamaṇiko → maṇiko (bj: PTS) | udañcaniko → uddekaniko (bj: syā, PTS) | sampadamidaṁ → sampadamekaṁ (bj: PTS) | udakamaṇiko → maṇiko (cck: sī. pī. ka.) | udañcaniko → uddekaniko (cck: sī. syā. kaṁ. pī.) | sampadamidaṁ → evaṁ sampadametaṁ (cck: sī. pī.) | maṇiko → Si udakamaṇiko. (pts note) | uddekaniko → So Sk Si; St uddevakaniko; Bm udañjaniko (pts note) | etaṁ → Bm Si idaṁ. (pts note) | Udāyissa → Bm adds ca. (pts note)You’ll end up like a water jar that turns into a water ladle.
Mā bhavaṁ, udāyi, samaṇe gotame brahmacariyaṁ cari;Worthy Udāyī, don’t lead the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama.
mā bhavaṁ, udāyi, ācariyo hutvā antevāsīvāsaṁ vasī”ti.
ācariyo → Skt ācariyako. (pts note)You have been a tutor; don’t live as a pupil.”
Iti hidaṁ sakuludāyissa paribbājakassa parisā sakuludāyiṁ paribbājakaṁ antarāyamakāsi bhagavati brahmacariyeti.
antarāyam → Skt antarāyekāsi. (pts note) | iti hidaṁ → iti-h-idaṁ (pts) | antarāyamakāsi → antarāyam akāsi (pts) | brahmacariyeti → brahmacariye ti (pts)And that’s how the wanderer Sakuludāyī’s own assembly prevented him from leading the spiritual life under the Buddha.