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  • Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.68Linked Discourses 12.68
  • 7. MahāvaggaThe Great Chapter

KosambisuttaSutta At Kosambī

Ekaṁ samayaṁ āyasmā ca musilo āyasmā ca paviṭṭho āyasmā ca nārado āyasmā ca ānando kosambiyaṁ viharanti ghositārāme.
musilo → mūsīlo (bj); musīlo (pts1ed, pts2ed) | paviṭṭho → saviṭṭho (bj, pts1ed, pts2ed) | musilo → musīlo (bj) | saviṭṭho → paviṭṭho (bj: machasaṁ, syā) | musilo → mūsilo (cck: sī.); musīlo (cck: pī.) | paviṭṭho → saviṭṭho (cck: sī. pī.)
On one occasion Ven. Musila, Ven. Paviṭṭha, Ven. Nārada, and Ven. Ānanda were staying near Kosambī at Ghosita’s monastery.
Atha kho āyasmā paviṭṭho āyasmantaṁ musilaṁ etadavoca:
paviṭṭho → saviṭṭho (bj) | musilaṁ → kho musīlaṁ (bj)
Then Ven. Paviṭṭha said to Ven. Musila,

“aññatreva, āvuso musila, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato musilassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:
musila → musīla (bj); saviṭṭha (pts) | musilassa → musīlassa (bj) | musilassa paccattameva → musīlassa paccattam eva (pts)
“Musila, my friend, putting aside conviction, putting aside preference, putting aside tradition, putting aside reasoning through analogies, putting aside an agreement through pondering views: Do you have truly personal knowledge that,
‘jātipaccayā jarāmaraṇan’”ti?
jātipaccayā jarāmaraṇanti → jātinirodhā jarāmaraṇanirodhoti (pts)
‘From birth as a requisite condition come aging-&-death’?”

“Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj, pts)
“Yes, Paviṭṭha my friend. Putting aside conviction… preference… tradition… reasoning through analogies… an agreement through pondering views, I do have truly personal knowledge that,
‘jātipaccayā jarāmaraṇan’”ti.
jātipaccayā jarāmaraṇanti → jātinirodhā jarāmaraṇanirodhoti (pts)
‘From birth as a requisite condition come aging-&-death.’”

“Aññatreva, āvuso musila, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato musilassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:
musila → musīla (bj, pts) | musilassa → musīlassa (bj) | musilassa paccattameva → musīlassa paccattam eva (pts)
[Similarly with
‘bhavapaccayā jātīti …pe…
bhavapaccayā jātīti → bhavanirodhā jātinirodhoti upādānanirodhā bhavanirodhoti (pts)
‘From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth’ .…
upādānapaccayā bhavoti …‘From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming’.… taṇhāpaccayā upādānanti …‘From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging/sustenance’.… vedanāpaccayā taṇhāti …‘From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving’.… phassapaccayā vedanāti …‘From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling’.… saḷāyatanapaccayā phassoti …‘From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact’.… nāmarūpapaccayā saḷāyatananti …‘From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media’.… viññāṇapaccayā nāmarūpanti …‘From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form’.… saṅkhārapaccayā viññāṇanti …‘From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness.’] avijjāpaccayā saṅkhārā’”ti?“Musila, my friend, putting aside conviction, putting aside preference, putting aside tradition, putting aside reasoning through analogies, putting aside an agreement through pondering views: Do you have truly personal knowledge that, ‘From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications’?”

“Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj, pts) | Aññatreva → S1 aññatova several times (pts note) | aññatra → aññatra- -parivitakkā are missing in S1-3 (pts note) | aññatra → S3 aviññata (pts note)
“Yes, Paviṭṭha my friend. Putting aside conviction… preference… tradition… reasoning through analogies… an agreement through pondering views, I do have truly personal knowledge that,
‘avijjāpaccayā saṅkhārā’”ti.
avijjāpaccayā saṅkhārāti → avijjānirodhā saṅkhāranirodhoti (pts)
‘From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications.’”

“Aññatreva, āvuso musila, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato musilassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:
musila → musīla (bj, pts) | musilassa → musīlassa (bj) | aññatreva → aññatra ca (sya-all) | pe → Complete in B (pts note)
“Musila, my friend, putting aside conviction, putting aside preference, putting aside tradition, putting aside reasoning through analogies, putting aside an agreement through pondering views: Do you have truly personal knowledge that,
‘jātinirodhā jarāmaraṇanirodho’”ti?‘From the cessation of birth comes the cessation of aging-&-death’?”

“Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj, pts) | ākāraparivitakkā → ākaraparivitakkā (pts) | ākāraparivitakkā → Missing as above in S1-3 (pts note)
“Yes, Paviṭṭha my friend. Putting aside conviction… preference… tradition… reasoning through analogies… an agreement through pondering views, I do have truly personal knowledge that,
‘jātinirodhā jarāmaraṇanirodho’”ti.‘From the cessation of birth comes the cessation of aging-&-death.’”

“Aññatreva, āvuso musila, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato musilassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:
musila → musīla (bj) | musilassa → musīlassa (bj)
[Similarly with
‘bhavanirodhā jātinirodhoti …pe…‘From the cessation of becoming comes the cessation of birth’.… upādānanirodhā bhavanirodhoti …‘From the cessation of clinging/sustenance comes the cessation of becoming’.… taṇhānirodhā upādānanirodhoti …‘From the cessation of craving comes the cessation of clinging/sustenance’.… vedanānirodhā taṇhānirodhoti …‘From the cessation of feeling comes the cessation of craving’.… phassanirodhā vedanānirodhoti …
vedanānirodhoti → Omitted by S1-3 (pts note)
‘From the cessation of contact comes the cessation of feeling’.…
saḷāyatananirodhā phassanirodhoti …‘From the cessation of the six sense media comes the cessation of contact’.… nāmarūpanirodhā saḷāyatananirodhoti …‘From the cessation of name-&-form comes the cessation of the six sense media’.… viññāṇanirodhā nāmarūpanirodhoti …‘From the cessation of consciousness comes the cessation of name-&-form’.… saṅkhāranirodhā viññāṇanirodhoti …‘From the cessation of fabrications comes the cessation of consciousness.’] avijjānirodhā saṅkhāranirodho’”ti?“Musila, my friend, putting aside conviction, putting aside preference, putting aside tradition, putting aside reasoning through analogies, putting aside an agreement through pondering views: Do you have truly personal knowledge that, ‘From the cessation of ignorance comes the cessation of fabrications’?”

“Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj)
“Yes, Paviṭṭha my friend. Putting aside conviction… preference… tradition… reasoning through analogies… an agreement through pondering views, I do have truly personal knowledge that,
‘avijjānirodhā saṅkhāranirodho’”ti.‘From the cessation of ignorance comes the cessation of fabrications.’”

“Aññatreva, āvuso musila, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato musilassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:
musila → musīla (bj) | musilassa → musīlassa (bj) | ruciyā → Here aññatra ruciyā only is missing in S1-3 (pts note)
“Musila, my friend, putting aside conviction, putting aside preference, putting aside tradition, putting aside reasoning through analogies, putting aside an agreement through pondering views: Do you have truly personal knowledge that,
‘bhavanirodho nibbānan’”ti?‘The cessation of becoming is unbinding’?”

“Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj)
“Yes, Paviṭṭha my friend. Putting aside conviction… preference… tradition… reasoning through analogies… an agreement through pondering views, I do have truly personal knowledge that,
‘bhavanirodho nibbānan’”ti.
nibbānanti tenahāyasmā musilo → nibbānam ti tenāyasmā musīlo (pts)
‘The cessation of becoming is unbinding.’”

“Tenahāyasmā musilo arahaṁ khīṇāsavo”ti?
tenahāyasmā musilo → tena hāyasmā musīlo (bj) | Tenāyasmā → S1-3 tenahāyasmā (pts note)
“Then, Ven. Musila, you are an arahant whose effluents are ended.”
Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā musilo tuṇhī ahosi.
musilo → musīlo (bj, pts) | ahosi → ahosīti (pts)
When this was said, Ven. Musila was silent.

Atha kho āyasmā nārado āyasmantaṁ paviṭṭhaṁ etadavoca:
paviṭṭhaṁ → saviṭṭhaṁ (bj) | āyasmantaṁ paviṭṭhaṁ etadavoca → āyasmantam saviṭṭham etad avoca (pts)
Then Ven. Nārada said,
“sādhāvuso paviṭṭha, ahaṁ etaṁ pañhaṁ labheyyaṁ.
paviṭṭha ahaṁ etaṁ → saviṭṭha ahametaṁ (bj) | paviṭṭha ahaṁ → saviṭṭha aham (pts)
“Paviṭṭha my friend, it would be good if I were to get that question.
Maṁ etaṁ pañhaṁ puccha.
maṁ etaṁ → evaṁ (sya-all) | puccha ahaṁ te etaṁ → pucchāmaham āyasmantaṁ nāradam etam (pts) | mametaṁ → mamevaṁ (bj: syā) | etam → S1-3 omit mam; S3 eva tam (pts note)
Ask me that question
Ahaṁ te etaṁ pañhaṁ byākarissāmī”ti.and I will answer it for you.”

“Labhatāyasmā nārado etaṁ pañhaṁ.
labhatāyasmā → labhati āyasmā (sya-all) | labhatāyasmā → labhati āyasmā (bj: syā) | āyasmā → S1-3 labhatāyasmā (pts note)
“Then Ven. Nārada will get that question.
Pucchāmahaṁ āyasmantaṁ nāradaṁ etaṁ pañhaṁ.
pañhaṁ → paññaṁ (bj)
I will ask Ven. Nārada that question,
Byākarotu ca me āyasmā nārado etaṁ pañhaṁ.and may he answer that question for me.”

Aññatreva, āvuso nārada, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato nāradassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:[Ven. Paviṭṭha asks the same questions of Ven. Nārada, who gives the same answers as Ven. Musila.] ‘jātipaccayā jarāmaraṇan’”ti? “Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj)
‘jātipaccayā jarāmaraṇan’”ti.

“Aññatreva, āvuso nārada, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato nāradassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ— bhavapaccayā jāti …pe…
jāti → jātīti (bj, sya-all)
avijjāpaccayā saṅkhārā”ti? “Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj)
‘avijjāpaccayā saṅkhārā’”ti.

“Aññatreva, āvuso nārada, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato nāradassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:
aññatreva → aññatra ca (sya-all)
‘jātinirodhā jarāmaraṇanirodho’”ti? “Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj)
‘jātinirodhā jarāmaraṇanirodho’”ti.

“Aññatreva, āvuso nārada, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato nāradassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ: ‘bhavanirodhā jātinirodhoti …pe… avijjānirodhā saṅkhāranirodho’”ti? “Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj)
‘avijjānirodhā saṅkhāranirodho’”ti.

“Aññatreva, āvuso nārada, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā atthāyasmato nāradassa paccattameva ñāṇaṁ:
ñāṇaṁ bhavanirodho → ñāṇi bhava nirodho (sya-all)
‘bhavanirodho nibbānan’”ti?

“Aññatreva, āvuso paviṭṭha, saddhāya aññatra ruciyā aññatra anussavā aññatra ākāraparivitakkā aññatra diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā ahametaṁ jānāmi ahametaṁ passāmi:
paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj)
‘bhavanirodho nibbānan’”ti.

“Tenahāyasmā nārado arahaṁ khīṇāsavo”ti?
tenahāyasmā → tenāyasmā (pts)
“Then, Ven. Nārada, you are an arahant whose effluents are ended.”

“‘Bhavanirodho nibbānan’ti kho me, āvuso, yathābhūtaṁ sammappaññāya sudiṭṭhaṁ, na camhi arahaṁ khīṇāsavo.
yathābhūtaṁ → (bj)
“My friend, although I have seen properly with right discernment, as it has come to be, that ‘The cessation of becoming is unbinding,’ still I am not an arahant whose effluents are ended.
Seyyathāpi, āvuso, kantāramagge udapāno, tatra nevassa rajju na udakavārako.
rajju na → rajjunā (pts)
It’s as if there were a well along a road in a desert, with neither rope nor water bucket.
Atha puriso āgaccheyya ghammābhitatto ghammapareto kilanto tasito pipāsito, so taṁ udapānaṁ olokeyya.A man would come along overcome by heat, oppressed by the heat, exhausted, dehydrated, & thirsty. Tassa ‘udakan’ti hi kho ñāṇaṁ assa, na ca kāyena phusitvā vihareyya.
phusitvā → So C; B phusetvā; S1-3 passitvā (pts note)
He would look into the well and would have knowledge of ‘water,’ but he would not dwell touching it with his body.

Evameva kho, āvuso, ‘bhavanirodho nibbānan’ti yathābhūtaṁ sammappaññāya sudiṭṭhaṁ, na camhi arahaṁ khīṇāsavo”ti.
sudiṭṭham → S1-3 suddiṭṭham (pts note)
In the same way, although I have seen properly with right discernment, as it has come to be, that ‘The cessation of becoming is unbinding,’ still I am not an arahant whose effluents are ended.”

Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā ānando āyasmantaṁ paviṭṭhaṁ etadavoca:
paviṭṭhaṁ → saviṭṭhaṁ (bj) | paviṭṭhaṁ etadavoca → saviṭṭham etad avoca (pts)
When this was said, Ven. Ānanda said to Ven. Paviṭṭha,
“evaṁvādī tvaṁ, āvuso paviṭṭha, āyasmantaṁ nāradaṁ kiṁ vadesī”ti?
evaṁvādī → evaṁvādiṁ (?) | paviṭṭha → saviṭṭha (bj) | paviṭṭha āyasmantaṁ → saviṭṭha āyasmantam (pts) | evaṁvādī → evaṁvādiṁ (cck: ?)
“When he speaks in this way, friend Paviṭṭha, what do you have to say about Ven. Nārada?”

“Evaṁvādāhaṁ, āvuso ānanda, āyasmantaṁ nāradaṁ na kiñci vadāmi aññatra kalyāṇā aññatra kusalā”ti.
āyasmantaṁ nāradaṁ → āyasmantam naradaṁ (pts) | na → Missing in S1-3 (pts note) | kusalāti → S1-3 kusalānīti (pts note)
“When Ven. Nārada speaks in this way, friend Ānanda, I have nothing to say about Ven. Nārada except that (he is) admirable & skillful.”

Aṭṭhamaṁ.The Eighth.

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